Tuesday, September 18, 2012

The Great Fees Scandal : Scots legal consumers falling victim to RIP OFF bills from desperate law firms in ‘fabricated litigation racket’

Law Society of ScotlandLaw Society of Scotland, promoter of the profession, not honesty & high standards of service. IF YOU have recently received a bill from your lawyer, it may well be wise to cast a more than cautionary eye over amounts being demanded from you, as the chances are there is some expensive, yet non existent & fabricated work included in the sums demanded by the same solicitor who once told you the issue requiring the work of a qualified legal practitioner would not pose any difficulty or extreme cost to resolve.

An on going investigation by Diary of Injustice into fees demanded by Scottish law firms has so far revealed a significant number of solicitors bills brought to our attention which have been further looked into and queried both by clients and journalists, contain what can only be described as false charges for legal work which has never taken place.

Journalists have been able to establish that in all of the cases of disputed fee demands presented to Diary of Injustice regarding queries over the key area of "Counsel's Opinions", most of the solicitors failed (many refused) to produce any justification for obtaining a Counsels Opinion and all but one of the solicitors failed (again, many refused) to even produce an actual copy of the Counsel's Opinion to the client to justify claims for expenditures of up to £3,800 a time on alleged fees due to advocates.

In the sole case where, after six requests from the client to do so, the solicitor who was demanding £2,600 for a 'Counsel's Opinion', produced an incomplete, 'partial copy' of a Junior Counsel's opinion, along with an alleged copy of a cover note from the advocate named in the opinion, further enquiries revealed the advocate who supposedly wrote the opinion was, at the time, on extended leave after recovering from an alcohol related illness and had not been working for six months.

The advocate in the above case, has since admitted to journalists he was never contacted by the solicitor representing the client in a bitter boundary dispute so far lasting six years which has cost the client upwards of seventeen thousand pounds. The inescapable conclusion on this case is that clearly, the solicitor faked the advocate's opinion in order to fraudulently demand fees from his client.

As the antics of profit hungry, increasingly desperate Scots law firms to squeeze every penny out of their already impoverished clients shows, the imagination of solicitors to charge for non existent work is not limited to phantom 'Counsel's Opinions', with bills sent by both large city law firms and small High Street solicitors to clients on a variety of issues such as property transactions, divorce, wills & estates of deceased clients to complicated financial arrangements, commonly contain charges for items such as :

Non existent meetings between solicitors & clients,

Property & title searches, charged for, yet never carried out,

Letters to clients with 'important documents' supposedly "lost in the post",

Court appearances in Sheriff Courts and even Scotland's highest court, the Court of Session, none of which actually took place,

Exorbitant charges for storage of wills & other documents which clients were initially told was "a free service",

Shocking charges of up to £1,000 a time for the simple act of authorising payments, money transfers and other pay-outs to clients & beneficiaries.

In most of the 37 cases of disputed fees brought to the attention of Diary of Injustice, the clients involved have submitted complaints to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission (SLCC), Law Society of Scotland & Faculty of Advocates. However, all three regulators have a poor track record in dealing with complaints over solicitors & advocates fees. Diary of Injustice recently reported on the reluctance of the SLCC to use its powers in complaints about fees, here : Regulator’s use of powers to reduce fees demanded by ‘crooked lawyers’ fails to keep pace with client complaints, dissatisfaction with Scots law firms

Some clients involved in disputes with their solicitors over clearly fraudulent fee demands have even approached their local Police Forces, asking for arrests & prosecutions, only to be shockingly told the issues "are civil matters", even though it is plain the criminal offence of fraud is at work in many of the cases.

A Police source speaking to Diary of Injustice pointed the finger of blame at Scotland's Crown Office. He alleged the Crown Office are reluctant to prosecute solicitors in Scotland for criminal offences involving acts committed against clients,  a fact backed up by several cases covered by Diary of Injustice and the media in the past where inexplicably, Scotland's Lord Advocate & Crown Office staff have refused to prosecute Scottish solicitors from everything from fraud against clients to the theft of millions of pounds of taxpayer funded legal aid.

Recently, Diary of Injustice has reported on how some clients have either been threatened with, or were actually made bankrupt by their law firm over disputes involving bills for legal work even though the law firm had actually significantly weakened or even ruined their client's legal affairs. Readers can view more on this here :

Since Diary of Injustice reported on a controversial case involving a Mr William Gordon and Perth Law firm Kippen Campbell, a number of clients have contacted Diary of Injustice telling of similar experiences of being threatened with sequestration or bankruptcy if bills for unsubstantiated legal work were not paid within seven days.

Cases like those already reported and others currently under investigation have led to a string of sequestrations across Scotland as a result of applications by law firms for the recovery of fees which commonly involve attempts to sell off client's properties on the cheap to recover a few thousand pounds for a greedy law firm which cannot provide evidence for its charges to clients.

Our advice - If you have a bill from your solicitor, the first thing you need to do is ensure it is itemised, and then if there is any work you are not sure took place, or was necessary in the first place, query the amounts asked for and if necessary, involve the regulators as soon as possible. If consumers want to alert Diary of Injustice to dodgy fee demands from solicitors, please email us via scottishlawreporters@gmail.com

95 comments:

Anonymous said...

Good to see you back and the useful tips on what to look out for in a lawyer's bill.Doubtless they will be getting even more creative with the fake work as the recession continues!

Anonymous said...

Print leaflets saying a law firm is overcharging you and their clients will abandon them.

Anonymous said...

I've heard about the bogus counsel's opinion tricks before but it really amazes me clients get taken in by this and don't challenge it more often.

Great to see you giving all the legal profession's dirty linen a good airing and hope some people take note of what you have exposed here.

Anonymous said...

This is what happens when lawyers look after their own and set the prices they charge their clients and get away with it.Little wonder MacAskill says nothing will alter because his pals in the profession are rolling in it by any means possible including fraud.

Anonymous said...

You could always cover your name and address on your lawyers bill and and photocopy it and hand copies to others. Show them why McKenzie Friends are not allowed to be paid expenses in Scotland because The Law Society want their law firms to rip the public off. And people would say, XXXXXX Solicitors are expensive.

A Lawyers bill can become a leaflet if you see what I mean.

Anonymous said...

Nice of the cops to finger the Crown Office for the lack of crooked lawyers being arrested isn't it.. so what do we have to do to get one of these scumbag lawyers actually arrested and put in jail?

Anonymous said...

They will starve you for fees, cut benefits, they have done it to thousands of innocent people.

Go the leaflet route. Do not report your lawyer to the Society or Commission. You will be helping your lawyer if you do. Leaflets where they work telling the public blogg's solicitors rip clients off.

Leaflet suggestions

XXXXXX XXXXXXXX Perth attempt to seize disabled man's disability benefits for payment of fees.

XXXXXX XXXXXX not prosecuted for stealing my families inheritance.

Don't help your lawyer reporting him, go the leaflet route because official complaints channels are secret, and racked by anti client prejudice.

Anonymous said...

"Shocking charges of up to £1,000 a time for the simple act of authorising payments, money transfers and other pay-outs to clients & beneficiaries."

How does this one work?

Anonymous said...

My advice to anyone getting a bill from their thieving lawyer is to burn it and then dont stand for any hassle and faked up charges

Anonymous said...

Do these human rats ever do anything honest?

Anonymous said...

Welcome back!

Anonymous said...

Independent regulation of legal profession ‘not necessary’ claims MacAskill & Scottish Government.
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No they condone lawyers crimes against the public. This is why they are agents for the Law Society of Scotland. The money is not coming out of MacAskill or Salmond or any other MSP reprobates bank account.

Jail them all.

Anonymous said...

Crown Office don't prosecute and the Law Society protect them too. This is not a profession, it is an extortion racket.

Leaflet suggestion

Bloggs solicitors charged me £2,600 for a QC's opinion but did not contact the QC.

Anonymous said...

Kenny MacAskill said it all, “nobody assesses the Law Society of Scotland”.....? Now the Great Fees Scandal.

Well clients we can assess the Law Society of Scotland. We can give the public our opinion on local law firms. Remember the Law Society of Scotland and the Law Society of England and Wales shut Solicitors from Hell. They are publicity shy. But they are not as powerful as they think. Think outside the box. They cannot stop us printing and distributing leaflets about their law firms. We can take their secret complaints system and expose it publicly. Their secrecy is their power.

So for example, leaflet suggestions.

1) A Perth Law Firm leaflet suggestion. “Joe Bloggs solicitors freeze disability benefits for four months to get fees”. Scottish Legal Complaints Commission does nothing about it. Kenny MacAskill Justice Minister and SNP condone this harsh treatment of members of the public. Next time it could be you.

2) Law Society of Scotland refused to prosecute lawyer {Andrew Penman} who stole inheritance. Kenny MacAskill Justice Minister SNP condones this harsh treatment of members of the public.

3) Scottish Legal Complaints Commission fine Solicitor Neils Lockhart of Kilmarnock £100 for making pensioner homeless for fees. Kenny MacAskill Justice Minister SNP condones this harsh treatment of members of the public.

4) Hamilton Citizens Advice Bureau has a solicitor advising members of the public who sent people to a lawyer impersonating a dead lawyer.


If enough of us go the leaflet route the Lawyers Unions are done for. Tell the truth, stay within the law and we will collectively clean up this dirtiest of groups. Then they can call themselves a profession.

Anonymous said...

Hands up anyone who recently had an itemised bill from their lawyer??? because I have asked for one and been threatened with same as in the story (sequestration if I don't pay up!) have phoned the Law Society and they said I am entitled to itemised bill my solicitor in Dundee wont even reply to my letter telling him what his own Law Society told me

Anonymous said...

To the post of 22.48;

Inform the Law Society, copy the letter to your solicitor, and keep a for yourself.

Anonymous said...

Now you've blown some of our secrets I suppose we will just have to become more creative in ripping off our clients

Anonymous said...

My solicitor in Dundee wont even reply to my letter telling him what his own Law Society told me.
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A leaflet campaign your lawyer will not want. That will bring him to his senses. Lawyers use coercion all the time by threatening clients with sequestration because they know other lawyers will not help you. They use this as a form of judicial blackmail. Leaflet suggestion.

"Blogs solicitors Dundee refuse to provide itemized bills".

If you are being treated this way so will their other clients in Dundee.

I am shocked the Law Society told you this. They normally want people hung drawn and quartered. Have a meeting with him and suggest the leaflet route. Then you will get your itemized bill because he will not want the publicity near his den of iniquity.

Or you could send him a copy of the leaflet and remain anonymous, then all his clients will get itemized bills because he will not know who you are. Lawyers ain't that clever, they just think they are smart.

Anonymous said...

Law Firms have one major headache. If we all start using leaflets to expose them the firms will not know who is doing it. They have too many victims out there.

Do not help your lawyer by reporting him through the so called independent complaints channels. You will stand alone and get no where.

Lawyers are horrified at my suggestion. Expose them in the towns they work in with leaflets. It is no blackmail, it is the only method available against a corrupt regulator. Blackmail is threatening to sequestrate clients because they want itemized bills, or bills reduced which the SLCC did not do for Mr Gordon of Perth. Your public leaflet is your only defense. I promise you all it works. Complaints must be taken away from the Law Society and Commission. They are hell bent on protecting your crooked lawyers.

Anonymous said...

"Kippen Campbell Solicitors Perth attempted to seize Disability Benefits to pay their fees in an attempt to starve disabled man".

A leaflet to be used in Perth. Self regulation is easy to get around just do it yourself clients. It is not defamatory because it is true. Do not help the Kippen Campbell's by reporting them to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission or Law Society. Avoid these corrupt normal complaints channels, they are clogged by prejudice.

Public leaflets destroy Law Society and Scottish Legal Complaints Commission private secrecy. You all have the answer to your crooked lawyer problem. All you need is a computer, a ream of paper and a printer. Simple and torture free, unlike the official complaints system.

Anonymous said...

A Cabbage Lawyer wrote

“Fortunately for us most of the population are as thick as two planks and lack the intelligence to understand your over detailed advice on fee reduction”.
£££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

Well lawyer your lot will have reduced fees once the leaflet outside your offices idea catches on, because no one will trust “Bloggs Solicitors”.

For example here is a potential leaflet for you to consider. Please do give your opinion clever lawyer on this, after all you were quite happy to call us thick.

“Law Society of Scotland protects Edinburgh Law Firm who stole mortgage money”.

When we cannot change the attitudes of those receiving client complaints, we can by legal means target the relevant Law Firms and bypass the complaints system. Simple, a bit like you. And make no mistake the people you call “thick as two planks” can use computers and printers to starve you of clients. Your comment just demonstrates the contempt you have for the people who provide your exorbitant income.

Anonymous said...

Lawyers are always "Off the hook", ah lawyers as slippy as Conger eels. The norm with this group of people.

Leaflets and pamphlets worked for Thomas Paine, no internet in his day, [if you are interested check]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Paine.

Oh I am not calling for a revolution, only a revolution in our thinking. A different strategy for exposing corrupt lawyers.

It will work for clients too, just like Thomas Paine, the pen is so mighty and so easy to use. No lawyer can control leaflet distribution, name and shame them yourself in your town. But tell the truth, we cannot lie like the Douglas Mill's of the world. He fell on his sword because of his mendacity, we clients are better than that.

Don't report your lawyer, to the Law Society of Scotland {the Master Policy never pays out anyway] or The Scottish Legal Complaints Commission. What did they call us? Oh yes "frequent Flyers". We should take their advice. You will be gray headed without a resolution to your complaint if you go to them. Go public with leaflets, oh to use the Commissions jargon "frequent flyers". Yes be frequent with your flyers about the crooked liars, corrupt lawyers and stop the rot by bypassing the Society and Commission.

I promise you all it will work. As Mr MacAskill wont end self regulation we can do it for him by naming and shaming his colleagues in our local towns. Remember be frequent with your flyers. Only clients can regulate law firms with leaflets. For example

"Bloggs Solicitors Glasgow stealing mortgage money"

but only do the leaflet if it is true.

If you lie you destroy your own strength and credibility. This is the reason the legal profession rarely repudiate what the DOI team reports say. Lawyers know the DOI Team are telling the truth, and that lawyers are the thieves and lairs.

Anonymous said...

Will MSPs admit they have had thousands of constituents write to them over the years, on horrendous issues such as lives being ruined, businesses being ruined, homes being lost, families being harassed, assets being embezzled, stolen, deceased love one's belongings and assets stolen - all at the hands of ... Scottish lawyers - who have been supported to the hilt, by their corrupt self regulatory body - the Law Society of Scotland.
Oh MSP’s how evil are you to condone such torture, you who are so complicit in Law Society crimes. Their weapon is bureaucracy to silence us which is what is happening and when doctors and Psychiatrists want to crush dissent their weapon is Sectioning under the Mental Health Act. Who will stop this, other doctors, Psychiatrists, Human Rights Lawyers? MSP’s you have mental health problems yourselves if you believe these people will act against their brother’s interests.
http://scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Mental%20Health
The mental health abuse is not new. The difference was in Nazi Germany all structures of the state, especially the press where controlled by the Nazi’s. So they could section without press coverage, which then resulted in murder on eugenic grounds.
If you get sectioned to silence dissent in a Democracy who decides if you get out? Psychiatrists, so basically they can use a hospital like a jail but without time limit. Far fetched, not at all. In the 19th Century women were detained to prevent sailors getting venereal disease, by the Medical Police.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagious_Diseases_Acts
Who controls Doctors, Psychiatrists?
Who controls Lawyers?
If you could ruin any one of their careers, who will protect YOU? This is why MSPs admit they have had thousands of constituents write to them over the years. MSP’s their evil can only continue if those in power do nothing.

Anonymous said...

When naming and shaming Law Firms, the following advice from Peter is sound and I agree with him 100% because I did the same with a corrupt so called professional. They are not as smart as they think they are.

“Whatever you do, stick to the facts. Don't ever make a claim which you can't support in evidence and never get into a slagging match with lawyers or those whom you are up against - they will only use that against you with all the power they can muster ... your honesty and your plight are your main advantages ... trust me ... I have stuck to this format, and even with everything I have said on my blog so far, or on TV, on Radio, or in the Courts, not one of the crooked lawyers or crooks at the Law Society of Scotland, could ever turn my words against me .. for it is all true .... as you can see from what I publish ...and you know what ? It happens to thousands of people ... maybe even someone you or (for the younger readership) someone your parents know”.

Spot on Peter. My GP could not sue me because I had documents, which proved after a prolonged attempt by him to exonerate himself [NHS Local Resolution] are cover up specialists] by letter he was a crook. So they did what Tugendhat did, said I was harassing him but never took legal action against me.

Stick to the truth, because this is so powerful. If you want an example why have the Law Society not sued the DOI Team. Because they cannot, the DOI Team are telling the truth, the Law Society and its network of thieves are criminals. That is why they hate the DOI Team, because the Law Society and its network of thieves are the liars. And they cannot get that fact into their thick skulls.

Just to repeat, The NHS Local Resolution is used where a doctor has to explain his actions in writing. When the manager who dealt with my case {a former NHS Nurse} read a copy of the documents he wanted the GP protected. They are all the same, lawyers, doctors, accountants; their unions do not want to know.

Anonymous said...

Before you read an article in a Newspaper - just stop and think for a bit about it ... maybe it's a story about house prices booming in your area, or a great deal with a bank or mortgage company, or that there has been an upsurge in people writing their wills because of something or other .. but hey - it turns out that the author of the article isn't a journalist at all, it's a LAWYER ! - and that lawyer's firm & profession stands to benefit from you taking your business to that same Bank they talk about (and use) .. or it provokes you into selling your home to buy another .... all on the basis of a planted article in a newspaper, written by a lawyer from the legal profession to spur on business and at the end of it, rip you off with high charges, sloppy work, and even a little embezzlement thrown in for good measure .... so remember .. what you read in the printed press these days .. might just not be true ...
So, my advice to campaigners & readers is - keep publicising your case against whoever you are fighting, and make sure that everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, knows the identity of that crooked person, lawyer, or whoever has ripped you off, because the crooked among us are definitely publicity shy .. and while it might get you back some of the money you wasted on that crook, it may also stop the same thing happening to someone else ....

More good advice from Peter and the DOI Team.

Anonymous said...

I appeal to the victims reading A Diary of Injustice, become participants because you will not be breaking the law if you are telling the truth. Poster campaign's in your town, warn others, and stop the clients going to these lawyers. Target the supply side and DO NOT APPROACH the Law Society of Scotland or The Scottish Legal Complaints Commission. [YOU WILL ONLY WASTE YOUR TIME. THEY ARE ANTI CLIENT, AND AGAINST ANYONE WHO DARES TO HIGHLIGHT LAWYER CORRUPTION. LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS. THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT LAWYERS SIEZING A MAN’S DISABILITY BENEFITS TO PAY LEGAL FEES AFTER THEY COVERED UP HIS INJURIES. THEY APPROVE OF THIS BRUTAL TREATMENT. SO WHAT IS THE POINT IN REPORTING A LAWYER TO THEM? NO POINT WHATSOEVER MY FRIENDS.
DON’T REPORT YOUR LAWYER TO THEM. You are applying your efforts in the wrong place. They do not want thousands of us distributing leaflets about law firms. How could the press keep quiet about that? THEY WANT YOU TO GO TO THEM SO THEY CAN KEEP EVERYTHING SECRET. JUST LIKE JUDGES WANT THEIR CRIMINAL RECORDS KEPT SECRET. Do not go to your MSP or Citizens Advice either; they are all on the Law Societies side. ONLY WE CAN EXPOSE THESE CRIMINALS, WE REALISE THAT NOW, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE LAW SOCIETY TORTURE CHAMBER. What you have to ask yourselves is this.
Can I live with what they have done to me? Can I stop them in their tracks? I want to stop the corrupt ones. A Diary of Injustice wants to stop them. So do you BY ANY LEGAL METHODS.
I went for the leaflets because they can do nothing about it. AND IT WORKED. Leaflets stating "Bloggs Solicitors stealing Mortgage Money", PROVIDING IT IS TRUE OF COURSE. WE CANNOT STOOP TO THEIR LEVELS. WE HAVE ETHICS. HONESTY IS OUR STRENGTH. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE IN A MESS. Stop this strategy Scottish Legal Complaints Commission and Law Society. You cannot and you know it. We are cutting you out of the complaints loop. Ruined clients WE MUST TAKE THEIR POWER AWAY FROM THEM, GO PUBLIC AND WATCH CLIENTS LEAVING LAW FIRMS IN THEIR THOUSANDS. IF WE ALL DO THIS SCOTLAND’S PEOPLE WILL BE FAR SAFER FOR IT.
Oh there is the door bell ringing. Have the Law Society ordered me arrested for harassing lawyers. Law Society F**k off. This is Scotland, not Nazi Germany. OR ARE THEY GOING TO TRY AND STITCH ME UP ON TRUMPHED UP CHARGES? THEY ARE BAD ENOUGH TO TRY IT.
EXPOSE YOUR LAWYERS PUBLICLY, AND MIGHTY FORCES WILL COME TO YOUR AID. STAY WITHIN THE LAW. LAWYERS DON’T NEED TO. BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF RUINED CLIENTS OUT THERE. TUGENDHAT CLOSED SOLICITORS FROM HELL. HE CANNOT CLOSE DOWN LEAFLET CAMPAIGNS. TAKE THEIR SECRET POWER AWAY FROM THEM. STOP THE COVER UPS TODAY. PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN WHEN THEY GROW UP BY ACTING NOW.

They will be frightened to overcharge. They want every victim silenced so they can carry on their evil trade with impunity.

Anonymous said...

The Public Hater Scottish crooked lawyers are infamous for overcharging their client victims?

They call it Double or Triple-Billing and consider it as normal management accounting practise as they know that the Police cannot get to them because the Law Society of Scotland have a Memorandum of Understanding with the Crown Office that NO SCOTTISH CROOKED LAWYER BE PROSECUTED, except where it is agreed that they want to get rid of a particular Scottish lawyer?

One of the more choice OVER BILLING examples I have seen recently was over £100/hour to provide photocopied pages?!!!

The 'Profession' (anyone can see it is not a profession) of Scottish lawyer is an enrichment device whereby once they qualify as a Scottish lawyer they feel they have the right to feed-off the Scottish Public?

This scenario has been promulgated to the nth degree by the Law Society of Scotland where they do not see themselves anymore as providing a 'service' but rather the client becomes a means to an end whereby the Scottish lawyer will sometimes even collude with an opponent Scottish lawyer to unnecessarily prolong and complicate an otherwise simple case so as to extract as much CASH as possible from their victim?

This CASH-SCAM is well known and is helped along by the Law Society who fail to prosecute their members and continually let them off SCOT FREE?

Anonymous said...

The Police are right about the Crown Office. If this was a member of the public stealing from a bank, [or a serving Police Officer] they would be charged and a public trial would determine their guilt or innocence.

But the secret world of Self Regulation destroys punishment for theft, client suicides, Legal Aid frauds. This group are allowed to operate in secrecy and they are shutting down web sites that criticize lawyers.

Personally the more law firms that go down the tubes the better. One law for the public, another for the Douglas Mill brigade.

Anonymous said...

http://money.aol.co.uk/2012/09/19/bad-bankers-should-be-struck-off/?icid=maing-grid7|ukt1|dl13|sec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D127696

Anonymous said...

I put in a complaint to the slcc about a bill and they threw it out even after I sent in all the evidence my solicitor was lying about the work he claims he did and they ignored the fact my case never got to court after FOUR YEARS of solicitor promising to "progress matters" so any time anyone hears this phrase from their solicitor IT IS A LIE

Anonymous said...

May it not be more appropriate to count the numbers of clients of a Scottish lawyer who HAVE NOT been overcharged?

Anonymous said...

I have a cunning idea.....

Since crooked Scottish lawyers do not give an honest and lawful service, then why do not all client victims pay their crooked lawyer in monopoly money, afteral they normally collect erroneous fat fees and DO NOT GO STRAIGHT TO JAIL when they should?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Independent regulation of legal profession ‘not necessary’ claims MacAskill & Scottish Government.
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No they condone lawyers crimes against the public. This is why they are agents for the Law Society of Scotland. The money is not coming out of MacAskill or Salmond or any other MSP reprobates bank account.

Jail them all.

18 September 2012 22:23
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Epitomised by the sweet £28,000.00 cash gifted to Scotland's Queen Crooked Lawyer for services rendered?

Anonymous said...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lawyers-squander-their-1m-fortune-and-sell-32m-home-in-divorce-battle-8156859.html

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I put in a complaint to the slcc about a bill and they threw it out even after I sent in all the evidence my solicitor was lying about the work he claims he did and they ignored the fact my case never got to court after FOUR YEARS of solicitor promising to "progress matters" so any time anyone hears this phrase from their solicitor IT IS A LIE

19 September 2012 16:18
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I bet you got the stock Gateway answer 'Completely without merit.....?' that they like to try against you to see if you will accept it and stop continuing with your complaint?

This is similar to the old Law Society of Scotland CRO trick called the 'Sifting Panel' (a made-up unlawful excuse used to rule out your valid complaint because they relied on you deferring to their 'Decision' because they expect you to believe in what they said as they think you will believe it is based on the Law because they are the Law Society of Scotland and you are supposed to believe them without question?

This could not be further from the truth?

You are the latest victim of corruption at the hand of the Law Society of Scotland who control the SLCC, despite supplying the SLCC prime facie evidence of wrongdoing by your lawyer?

Report your full case to the DOI journalists as quickly as possible and I advise you to report your lawyer and the SLCC to the Police, remembering to get the Police to give you a Crime Number (not an incident number) and ask the police to keep you updated on the progress of their investigation into this crime?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I appeal to the victims reading A Diary of Injustice, become participants because you will not be breaking the law if you are telling the truth. Poster campaign's in your town, warn others, and stop the clients going to these lawyers. Target the supply side and DO NOT APPROACH the Law Society of Scotland or The Scottish Legal Complaints Commission. [YOU WILL ONLY WASTE YOUR TIME. THEY ARE ANTI CLIENT, AND AGAINST ANYONE WHO DARES TO HIGHLIGHT LAWYER CORRUPTION. LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS. THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT LAWYERS SIEZING A MAN’S DISABILITY BENEFITS TO PAY LEGAL FEES AFTER THEY COVERED UP HIS INJURIES. THEY APPROVE OF THIS BRUTAL TREATMENT. SO WHAT IS THE POINT IN REPORTING A LAWYER TO THEM? NO POINT WHATSOEVER MY FRIENDS.
DON’T REPORT YOUR LAWYER TO THEM. You are applying your efforts in the wrong place. They do not want thousands of us distributing leaflets about law firms. How could the press keep quiet about that? THEY WANT YOU TO GO TO THEM SO THEY CAN KEEP EVERYTHING SECRET. JUST LIKE JUDGES WANT THEIR CRIMINAL RECORDS KEPT SECRET. Do not go to your MSP or Citizens Advice either; they are all on the Law Societies side. ONLY WE CAN EXPOSE THESE CRIMINALS, WE REALISE THAT NOW, SOME OF US HAVE BEEN THROUGH THE LAW SOCIETY TORTURE CHAMBER. What you have to ask yourselves is this.
Can I live with what they have done to me? Can I stop them in their tracks? I want to stop the corrupt ones. A Diary of Injustice wants to stop them. So do you BY ANY LEGAL METHODS.
I went for the leaflets because they can do nothing about it. AND IT WORKED. Leaflets stating "Bloggs Solicitors stealing Mortgage Money", PROVIDING IT IS TRUE OF COURSE. WE CANNOT STOOP TO THEIR LEVELS. WE HAVE ETHICS. HONESTY IS OUR STRENGTH. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE IN A MESS. Stop this strategy Scottish Legal Complaints Commission and Law Society. You cannot and you know it. We are cutting you out of the complaints loop. Ruined clients WE MUST TAKE THEIR POWER AWAY FROM THEM, GO PUBLIC AND WATCH CLIENTS LEAVING LAW FIRMS IN THEIR THOUSANDS. IF WE ALL DO THIS SCOTLAND’S PEOPLE WILL BE FAR SAFER FOR IT.

THEY ARE BAD ENOUGH TO TRY IT.
EXPOSE YOUR LAWYERS PUBLICLY, AND MIGHTY FORCES WILL COME TO YOUR AID. STAY WITHIN THE LAW. LAWYERS DON’T NEED TO. BUT THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF RUINED CLIENTS OUT THERE. TUGENDHAT CLOSED SOLICITORS FROM HELL. HE CANNOT CLOSE DOWN LEAFLET CAMPAIGNS. TAKE THEIR SECRET POWER AWAY FROM THEM. STOP THE COVER UPS TODAY. PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN WHEN THEY GROW UP BY ACTING NOW.

They will be frightened to overcharge. They want every victim silenced so they can carry on their evil trade with impunity.

19 September 2012 11:22
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Sir, YOU are talking SO much sense?

It is all a matter of CONTROL?

The Law Society of Scotland have got total control at the moment through their unlawful control of the SSDT, SLCC and now the CAB? (not to mention that it is cupping the balls of Salmon & MacAskill in its hands ready to squeeze)?

The only way of dismantling their power base is to NOT PLAY INTO THEIR HANDS?

Any sensible person must realise by the sheer number of instances via the SSDT & SLCC where justice has not been done that it is counter productive using these VEHICLES OF LAW SOCIETY CONTROL?

These SHAM ORGANISATIONS are there to let the crooked Scottish lawyer off Scot Free and to hammer their victim into submission?

They are by their very 'Decisions' clearly unlawful?

Report you case to DOI?

By all means use flyers and posters?

You could ask your local newspaper shop to pop a flyer into each paper they sell as well as those posted through letter boxes, so that you can tell the truth about your situation, as you will surely be providing a good service to your community?

Stop the Law Society's maniacal pursuit of CONTROL over you?

Anonymous said...

If all of the double and triple billing carried out by crooked Scottish lawyers were added up in any calendar year would it amount to:-

A) £1,000,000.00

B) £10,000,000.00

C) £20,000,000.00

D) £100,000,000.00; OR

E) A million squillion billion?

Answers on a postcard to Castle Greyscull at Drumsheugh Gardens?

Anonymous said...

Former FOI Commissioner Kevin Dunnion was on Newsnight yesterday mentioning that the powers that be are considering making the Law Society south of the border FOI compliant - but not a peep from any MSP here proposing or supporting a similar, and long overdue, move.

Just one further example then of 'one law for some, anothoer for others'.

Anonymous said...

The comment asking about how the £1000 charges work for money transfers is something I'm going through with a complaint just now over a failed house purchase where our solicitor without any permission transferred over the full sum of the purchase price to his firm's accounts even though it was clear the property owner was not going to take our offer then he transferred it back to our bank account again no permissions and the bank are "at a loss to explain how this could have occurred without our signature" according to their letter.Our solicitor charged us £800 for transferring the money from our bank to his firm and another £900 for transferring it back on top of £2,096 for work he claims he and his staff did arranging surveys of the property we bid for and a lot of other rubbish he cant produce any evidence of doing.Obviously we didnt end up with the house which I see is on the market again with his wife's property firm and its got us thinking they are using this as a scam to rip off anyone putting in bids for it and make thousands for nothing and I wouldn't be surprised if other people have been snared like us so you might want to look into this please.

Anonymous said...

Interesting the last published comment 20 September 2012 13:27

Sounds to me like lawyers are using property sales as a scam to rip people off,take them off the market in some fake sale and then put it back on again to catch some more people and thousands in fees.

Hope to see some big headlines on this one!

Anonymous said...

Sir, YOU are talking SO much sense?
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Thank you my friend I totally agree with your comment too. If people report their lawyer to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission or Law Society THEY ARE HELPING THEIR LAWYER TO RUIN MORE CLIENTS, AND HELPING THEM TO COVER UP EVERYTHING.

I have used leaflets also against the medical profession and I assure you it worked. Leaflets near their offices no regulator can control. Clients have the control now. After being battered to a pulp by they client destroying dictatorship we realize that naming and shaming by legal public means is the ONLY way forward.

Imagine this. A lawyer is sitting in his office up to his scams and his ruined clients are distributing leaflets near his office. His colleagues rob you of legal rights against him so we use leaflets to rob him of clients. Stop that Law Society or SLCC. I could not get a lawyer to go against a crooked doctor and crooked lawyer.

We must use all lawful means. Victory to us all against legal apartheid. Distribute leaflets in their thousands clients and your lawyers will change their attitudes radically toward you by treating you with respect.

Always remember their power is their secrecy, do not report to the SLCC or Law Society. Go public with leaflets rob them of their secrecy which prevents ruined client A, contacting ruined clients B, C, D, .....................................................................................................

Law Society of Scotland, you will reap what you have sown.

Anonymous said...

"The only way of dismantling their power base is to NOT PLAY INTO THEIR HANDS"?

YES Spot on. They blackmail clients with their threats of sequestration if you do not pay up. Then you report them and the Law Society and SLCC protect the lawyer who is threatening you. Then you go to other lawyers and they will not represent you. It is a dangerous Chess game where the client is always check Mated by being robbed of legal rights to save a lawyers career.

Victims of the Law Society put your crooked lawyer in check mate with public leaflets,

"Bloggs solicitors Edinburgh overcharging the public".

Just 100 leaflets will save you the torture of complaining to a lawyer protection racket.


DO NOT PLAY INTO THEIR HANDS AND YOU WILL DESTROY THEIR SECRET COVER UP MACHINE.

WARNING NEVER REPORT YOUR LAWYER said...

These SHAM ORGANISATIONS are there to let the crooked Scottish lawyer off Scot Free and to hammer their victim into submission?
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How many victims are their Law Society? How many will photocopy your responses and use them as leaflets? How many clients will start using leaflets?

How many times will the names of Law Society officials responsible for cover ups be on leaflets?

People of Scotland, do you want to deliver a fatal blow to the Law Society and your crooked lawyers reputations.

PRINT AND DISTRIBUTE YOUR OWN LEAFLETS [AND ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH]. DO NOT COMPLAIN TO THEM AND THEIR POWER WILL BE SMASHED.

Any lawyer wishing to comment please do. If people are telling the truth the law of defamation does not apply.

Anonymous said...

Your leaflet my friend


"XXXXXXXXX solicitors charged us £800 for transferring the money from our bank to their firm and another £900 for transferring it back on top of £2,096 for work they claim he and his staff did arranging surveys of the property we bid for and a lot of other rubbish he cant produce any evidence of doing. AVOID AT ALL COSTS"

Better than reporting him to the SLCC or Law Society. They can charge you anything because the system has no checks and balances. With the lawyer the price is not like a car on a forecourt. They are a brotherhood and you will get nowhere arguing with them. Public leaflets cut off the client supply. It works. And if a court rules he was right to charge you these fees, it would be perceived as lawyer protecting lawyer again.

If 100 clients distribute leaflets and 100 clients are prosecuted the courts would be a public version of the private Law Society. They only have a secret complaints system if we keep sending them our complaints.

Anonymous said...

Hardly surprising the SLCC/Law Society mafia wont touch complaints about fees after all its all lawyers looking after each other right?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The comment asking about how the £1000 charges work for money transfers is something I'm going through with a complaint just now over a failed house purchase where our solicitor without any permission transferred over the full sum of the purchase price to his firm's accounts even though it was clear the property owner was not going to take our offer then he transferred it back to our bank account again no permissions and the bank are "at a loss to explain how this could have occurred without our signature" according to their letter.Our solicitor charged us £800 for transferring the money from our bank to his firm and another £900 for transferring it back on top of £2,096 for work he claims he and his staff did arranging surveys of the property we bid for and a lot of other rubbish he cant produce any evidence of doing.Obviously we didnt end up with the house which I see is on the market again with his wife's property firm and its got us thinking they are using this as a scam to rip off anyone putting in bids for it and make thousands for nothing and I wouldn't be surprised if other people have been snared like us so you might want to look into this please.

20 September 2012 13:27
......'cmccmmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmcmc,c,,c,c,cc,c,,c

Report in full to the DOI Team as quickly as you can and go to the Police and report your crooked Scottish lawyer, his wife and her company and the Law Society of Scotland for allowing their member to act unlawfully?

Ask the Police for a Crime Number (not an incident number)?

Do not allow the Law Society of Scotland's Agent Elaine Motion to 'help' you as if you do you will find that your wealth & health will suffer?

Anonymous said...

If all of the crooked Scottish lawyers were told to pay back all of the money they have defrauded from their clients over the past ten years, would there be ANY firms who would avoid bankruptcy?

Anonymous said...

Why is it, when your lawyer has broken numerous Law Society of Scotland Accounts Rules, that they do not get punished for doing so?

Remember, the Law Society of Scotland's disciplinary wing the SSDT in their 2010 Chairman's end of year Report described Scottish lawyers theft from their clients as.............

'BORROWING WITHOUT CONSENT'?

In coming to an unlawful soft sanction against them?

Anonymous said...

I have discovered my dad's solicitor has
been charging us an average of £500 for every transaction of transferring money in my dad's will this is outrageous what can we do about it there are 14 transfers of money back and forth from my dad's bank account of the same amount and the charges total up as £7216.45 and I've asked the solicitor to provide an explanation and he says he does not need to answer any of our letters now so we have been ripped off this is a fraud!

Diary of Injustice said...

# Anonymous @ 20 September 2012 18:53

This property sales scam may be more common than meets the eye, DOI is looking into it ...

# Anonymous @ 21 September 2012 12:56

Thanks for your input, please email more details to scottishlawreporters@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

sounds like Mr Cherbi has uncovered another massive scandal on how lawyers are literally 'making up' their bills and surprise surprise the regulators are allowing it all to happen unchecked just like the FSA and the banks etc

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Why is it, when your lawyer has broken numerous Law Society of Scotland Accounts Rules, that they do not get punished for doing so?
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With bureaucracy there are no rules, and as you correctly conclude no punishment. This is why when we report lawyers to the Law Society, SLCC or any other complaints structure we are helping the one who ruined us. Our complaints must be public with leaflet campaigns.

Anonymous said...

I'm willing to bet these transfer money fees affect a lot of people so people should start waking up and challenging their bills

Anonymous said...

Since you are on the subject of bills, I know someone who was charged £700 for storage of a will for six months.He got the bill after he went in and cancelled the will after he heard about another client of the lawyer who had problems getting work done.He had already paid for the will writing and also has a letter saying the storage was free.I'll ask him to email you as he is also making a complaint about rip off charges by his lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Do not report criminals to criminals. Go public with leaflets.

Lawyers are getting desperate having their people offering firms legal services in shopping arcades throughout Scotland. Have you all seen the stalls?

You lawyers have Douglas Mill and his criminal gang to thank for our change to the leaflet strategy because we have realized there is nothing but agony for us going to the Law Society or SLCC.

THERE IS NO POINT IN REPORTING ANY LAWYER. WHEN WE REPORT LAWYERS WE ARE HELPING LAWYERS BECAUSE OUR SUFFERING GETS 100 TIMES WORSE BECAUSE THE LAW SOCIETY AND SLCC ARE WORSE THAN OUR CROOKED LAWYER.

Name and shame them yourself.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...
Former FOI Commissioner Kevin Dunnion was on Newsnight yesterday mentioning that the powers that be are considering making the Law Society south of the border FOI compliant - but not a peep from any MSP here proposing or supporting a similar, and long overdue, move.

Just one further example then of 'one law for some, anothoer for others'.

20 September 2012 12:08
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Scottish Legal Apartheit in action?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I have discovered my dad's solicitor has
been charging us an average of £500 for every transaction of transferring money in my dad's will this is outrageous what can we do about it there are 14 transfers of money back and forth from my dad's bank account of the same amount and the charges total up as £7216.45 and I've asked the solicitor to provide an explanation and he says he does not need to answer any of our letters now so we have been ripped off this is a fraud!

21 September 2012 12:56
??????????????????????????????????????????

Report to DOI and also police and make sure you get a Crime Number (not an incident number)?

The Law Societies weapon on domination is secrecy said...

As the MSP's helped the Law Society of Scotland to wreck the contents of the “Legal Profession & Legal Aid (Scotland) Bill”, and Citizens advice is now in the Law Society secret corrupt camp we must distribute leaflets naming and shaming lawyers ourselves.

What other means do we have against domination by bureaucracy. Like the NHS manager who told me nothing would be done about a corrupt doctor. They all sit on each others committees to dominate by bureaucracy and secrecy.

Never report your lawyer said...

Lawyers are always "Off the hook", ah lawyers as slippy as Conger eels.
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When you report them to the SLCC and Law Society this is correct.

So do not report your lawyer [because you will be helping him get off the hook}. Go the leaflet route near his offices, then he will be firmly hooked because the public will thank you for warning them. When the complaints channels are totally corrupt, what other choice do you have.

Anonymous said...

A leaflet suggestion

"Solicitors From Hell removed from internet as UK High Court grants injunction to Law Society of England & Wales to censor client reviews of lawyers. United Kingdom lawyers want their crimes against the public kept secret. Should you trust a profession that hate your feedback"?

The Law Societies of the UK are powerless against this because the statement is true.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 21 September 2012 12:56

£500,00 a transfer, I am not surprised by anything these lawyers do. They are a confederacy of deceivers. And he is right, he does not have to answer your questions because he knows if you complain about him you will be helping him.

Mr Gordon of Perth had his bank account frozen for four months. They wanted his disability benefits to pay his lawyers fees after they covered up his occupational injury. They have a secret complaints system and lock you out of the courts. It is a system of legalized robbery and torture. I have every sympathy with you. Try the leaflet route, your lawyer wont want the publicity.

"Bloggs solicitors charge £500.00 per transaction, avoid them".

Please do not report him, as I have already said you will make your situation worse if you do.

Anonymous said...

The lawyer is the human version of the poisoned chalice, in many cases no good can come from dealing with them.

Anonymous said...

Well after reading this if anyone is mad enough not to check their lawyer's bill they deserved to be ripped off

Anonymous said...

Case A

Solicitors charged us £800 for transferring the money from our bank to their firm and another £900 for transferring it back on top of £2,096 for work they claim he and his staff did arranging surveys of the property.

Case B

I have discovered my dad's solicitor has been charging us an average of £500 for every transaction of transferring money in my dad's will this is outrageous what can we do about it there are 14 transfers of money back and forth from my dad's bank account of the same amount and the charges total up as £7216.45.
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There will be thousands of cases like this. Lawyers do not have to justify this because they know the Law Society SLCC will do nothing about it. If these two clients go to other law firms then they will be treated with more utter contempt.

I would do leaflets on both firms because clients you are telling the truth so defamation laws do not apply. In the lawyers world there is no law, just like a world where there were no governments. I promise you lawyers don't want leaflet distribution in near their offices because that is public, not secretive like their complaints structures. They have designed a perfect system for extortion because they know punishment will not happen. Report a lawyer and the whole profession are against you. Go public with leaflets because that is where the clients are.

Anonymous said...

Lawyers, Law Society, SLCC, Legal Defence Union, Citizens Advice Scotland, Crown Office etc, etc can only be described as partners in crime. And the Police cannot ivestigate lawyers either.

So what choice do clients have other than public leaflets, and reporting to the brilliant DOI Team?

I promise you all reporting a lawyer in Scotland makes your life worse. If you don't believe me try it. An invisible wall of resistance springs up when you report a lawyer.

Leaflets and the DOI Team remove that wall by reporting on the criminals that protect the criminal who ruined you. The choice is yours my friends. Can you accept what they have done to you?

Anonymous said...

Football matches have referees who are not members of the competing teams for a reason.

With the public and lawyers the referees are other lawyers. This blog is a direct result of a system where the client fights not one lawyer but 10,399, the final one being the Law Society's minister of injustice Kenny MacAskill. What do you think of the leaflets Kenny?

So them charging anything they want is legal because there is no one in place to make it illegal. You report your lawyers to those in offices their crimes remain within the office. But if all of you clients use public leaflets their secret network will be broken. There if a further advantage. Other ruined clients [who used the same law firm] are likely to live in the same town
as you. Lawyers do not want these links being created.


The solution is simple and easy to implement. We cannot get lawyers so use the legal system against law firms. Make them take legal action against us. If they take all leaflet distributors to court they cannot condemn all of us. Do not report your lawyer to his own referees, go public instead.

The Law Society and SLCC want to keep their lawyers conduct out of the public arena. Do not let them, deal with lawyers by all legal methods yourselves. After all it's your money they are helping themselves too.

Anonymous said...

Jim Sillars: Totalitarian SNP run like the communist party
Published on Monday 10 September 2012 22:01

THE SNP hierarchy has been accused of exerting “totalitarian” control over backbenchers by a former deputy leader of the party.
Jim Sillars, who famously won the Govan by-election for the Nationalists in 1988, accused the current leadership of operating the most authoritarian regime in British politics.
The attack was dismissed by an SNP spokesman who said the current public spats within the party over Nato membership shows that it is ready to debate issues.
But Mr Sillars pointed to the absence of dissent within SNP ranks over the recent legislation to create a single national police force, adding there had been an “astonishing spectacle” over “many years now of no rebellion against leadership policy and opinion.”
Writing in Holyrood magazine, he added: “If I did not know better, I would easily believe the leaders had been schooled in the old communist party, where the top, the elite, made the decisions and the rest fell into step automatically, with not a word of dissent.
“Totalitarian would be a fair description of Scotland’s majority party.”
Mr Sillars said it was “not possible” for all the SNP’s MSPs to be “in total agreement with Salmond, Sturgeon and Swinney, yet no-one has dared tell them to get lost”.
He added: “Those willing to be told to shut up seem happy to wait until the leadership issue edicts and statements – and follow whatever line is laid down for them.”
Nationalist defence spokesman Angus Robertson will ask delegates at the party conference in October to back the new pro-Nato stance with the support of First Minister Alex Salmond.
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Sillars is right not only on this but also on the Law Society which he does not mention. No dissent within the Party [or Parliament] over Law Society tyranny. Humans are all so different in their outlook [especially in politics] that dissent is inevitable and when it is absent the SNP is acting like one person, Salmond, high protector of Scotland's crooked judiciary.

Secrecy if their weapon of domination said...

A Joiner uses a drill bit until the tungsten carbide cutters are burned out and then obtains a replacement bit.

Scotland's lawyers do the same but they do this with human beings, you and me. So ruined clients are things to them, as Douglas Mill put it "thorns in the lawyers flesh". They throw the ruined ones aside and target more unsuspecting victims. That is their profitable bulletproof policy. That is how important clients are to this cartel of criminals. But clients you do not have to play their complaints game. You have control now. They cannot self regulate if you do not report your lawyer to them.

Go the leaflet route and avoid their complaints process. It never compensates the public anyway. What do you think Douglas Mill? It worked for me. I wonder what the infamous Philip Yelland thinks. Public leaflets are cheap, efficient, and crush private Law Society and SLCC secrecy.

A leaflet. "Douglas Mill lied to the Justice 2 Committee to protect crooked lawyers". It is not defamatory because it is true.

If you report a crooked lawyer to the SLCC or Law Society I guarantee your life will get worse. The men I have named here are thinking S**t if all clients do this the Law Society SLCC are finished. My advice to you all, get your printers going and name and shame your crooked Scottish lawyer yourself.

Overcome secrecy and the lawyers are finished.

Anonymous said...

I read somewhere possibly on your blog Peter that every lawyer in Scotland over the years has been reported to the Law Society.

If that is true there are thousands of potential leaflet distributors out there. The more the better. This is the down side of bureaucratic cover ups. They think because they have the control they cannot be broken.

But we have the control, we just need to use it.

Anonymous said...

Lawyers prefer a client who has been driven to suicide than one of their colleagues careers ruined.

Radical evil.

Anonymous said...

Absolute monarchy is a monarchical form of government in which the monarch exercises ultimate governing authority as head of state and head of government; his or her powers are not limited by a constitution or by the law. An absolute monarch wields unrestricted political power over the sovereign state and its people. Absolute monarchies are often hereditary but other means of transmission of power are attested. Absolute monarchy differs from limited monarchy, in which the monarch’s authority is legally bound or restricted by a constitution; consequently, an absolute monarch is an autocrat.
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If the Monarch is constitutional without political powers why should the Law Society dominate you? I love political science. What is self regulation other that absolute domination over clients. Why do you all complain to lawyer's unions who are against your interests, secrecy is profitable for them and hell for you. It is about power. What is power other than who controls public opinion. What is power other than, whether it is local government, central government, or quasi politics, international relations.

Lawyers do not have a constitution. No referee between the them as they make the rules and you the human being without rights. You have no rights because you make report your lawyer to his colleagues.

Report your lawyer to MP's or MSP's no help. Report your lawyer to the Queen she cannot get involved. Do not report your lawyer. Use leaflets clients, you will convince others to follow you.

Anonymous said...

Cabinet Finance Chief John Swinney (then in opposition in 2006) knew how to ask some questions, yet he should be asking more.

Come on MSP's help your constituents. Mr Swinney crush Macaskill now.

Anonymous said...

One of the best examples of an absolute monarch was Louis XIV of France. His alleged statement, "L'état, c'est moi" (Literally: "The state, it is me").

The state for those caught in the self regulatory trap is the Law Society of Scotland. It cannot condemn you to death legally but it does take away your legal rights. It leaves you without legal rights at the mercy of its lawyers. What other defense do you have other that distributing leaflets? Answers to your lawyers please.

Anonymous said...

Lets us follow logic and reason. This was the basis of Hume's and Kant's and others writings on the the existence of a supreme Diety or God. The law does not apply to lawyers, or high court judges who are simply glorified lawyers. Law does not apply to the Law Society SLCC. SO HOW CAN THESE PEOPLE CONVICT YOU IN THE COURTS WHEN YOU DISTRIBUTE LEAFLETS NAMING CORRUPT LAW FIRMS. CAN THE CHURCHES CONVICT YOU OF FOLLOWING HUME OR KANT'S WRITINGS? AT ONE TIME THE CHURCHES WERE LAW. NOW THE LAWYERS ARE UNREGULATED LAW.

THE LAW SOCIETY THINK THEY ARE THE LAW. BUT THEY ARE ALSO SLEF INTEREST HUMANS. IF HUME AND KANT ARGUED YOU USE REASON IN ALL MATTERS CONCERNING PUBLIC LIFE [I AM NOT PATRONIZING YOU] WHO ARE THE LAW SOCIETY OR LAWYERS TO CONDEMN YOU? THEY HAVE ALL THE POWER OF THE ANCIENT CHURCH, THEY FEAR YOU, THEY FEAR FREETHINKERS. POWER RELATES TO ENLIGHTENED PEOPLE. DISTRIBUTE LEAFLETS, THE GREAT PHILOSOPHERS DID. LIKE THEM WE ARE ONLY GIVING OUR OPINION.

LAW SOCIETY PROTECT LAWYERS WHO CHARGE YOU ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ FOR MORTGAGE ARRANGEMENTS.

PEOPLE DISTRIBUTE AND SEND LEAFLETS TO SELL CARS, WASHING MACHINES, FOOD. HOW CAN LAWYERS CONDEMN YOU FOR DISTRIBUTING LEAFLETS GIVING YOUR OPINION ON A LAWYER?

BUSINESS THAT AIMS TO PLEASE NEVER SHUN FEEDBACK. LAWYERS HATE FEEDBACK. DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS.

Anonymous said...

“Fortunately for us most of the population are as thick as two planks and lack the intelligence to understand your over detailed advice on fee reduction”.
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Well Brainbox. tell us which law firm you are a partner in? You are so complacent, why are you so afraid to reveal your identity? The Law Society, SLCC HIDE YOUR IDENTITY. BUT WE WILL NOT. I love you intellectual prowess. You are a genius indeed? A font of wisdom? No I think not.

Your silence to my earlier comments on the DOI Teams advice on fee reduction demonstrates you never in your wildest dreams thought of the public naming lawyers using their own printers and computers. Your power to dominate depends on us reporting you to your colleagues.

I prefer leaflets for example.

"Lawyers take control of internet so you cannot learn how they are ripping you off on mortgages".

No lawyer can challenge this because no lawyer or law firm is named. We can cause immense damage to lawyers without naming them. And most people clever lawyer have mortgages today.

Readers of a Diary of Injustice use the above one for your leaflets. And all the more so the more they try and control the internet. If you do not you may be retired and your son or daughter may be caught in their trap.

Do not protect future lawyers at the expense of your kids. Act now.

Anonymous said...

Well done publishing this kind of info I hope people are now thinking more before paying their lawyers bills or even going to a lawyer in the first place because the fact is you are all going to be ripped off just like what happened to others and no chance of getting anything done about it

Anonymous said...

Amid loud shrieks of laughter & disbelief from clients caught up in the Law Society’s infamously corrupt regulatory process, Ms Lorna Jack went onto claim in the press release that the Law Society is still interested in ‘delivering benefits for the public, Ms Jack continued : “Every element of our business has been re-examined in the planning process with a view to delivering benefits for the profession and the public in a cost effective way. We must retain the skills we need to do the job while reducing employment costs.”
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PUBLIC LEAFLETS PRINTED BY CLIENTS LORNA THAT IS THE WAY CLIENTS MUST GO, NOT TO YOUR CORRUPT SECRET UNION.

HELP YOURSELVES CLIENTS [THIS IS CRITICAL] BY NOT REPORTING YOUR LAWYER TO THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY. I LEARNED A FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH WITH THE LAWYERS BUREAUCRACY, ONLY YOU CAN EXPOSE YOUR CROOKED LAWYER. I PROMISE YOU ALL REPORTING A LAWYER TO THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE DRASTICALLY WORSE. MACASKILL DOES NOT WANT TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

DISTRIBUTE YOUR OWN LEAFLETS IS THE ONLY WAY THE PUBLIC WILL LEARN ABOUT YOUR LAWYER. DO NOT GO TO THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY BECAUSE THEY WILL KEEP YOUR CASE SECRET. CUT LAWYERS OUT OF THE COMPLAINTS LOOP, THEN IN TIME THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHAT SELF REGULATION MEANS, PERMANENTLY RUINED CLIENTS AND PERMANENTLY PROTECTED CROOKED LAWYERS.

THEIR COMPLAINTS SYSTEM WILL HAMMER YOU, THAT IS WHAT IT IS FOR. NEVER USE IT. HAND YOUR OWN TRUTHFUL LEAFLETS TO THE PUBLIC IN THE TOWN WHERE YOUR LAWYER WORKS.

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE WENT TO THE LAW SOCIETY LEAFLET SUGGESTION.

"LAW SOCIETY ALLOW BLOGS SOLICITORS TO RIP OFF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC". YOU HAVE THE CONTROL NOW CLIENTS, USE IT.

Anonymous said...

Yes its about time lawyers had their comeuppance haven't you noticed there isn't a single tv station who run stories about crooked lawyers even with all these thousands of complaints every year someone must be shutting them up I think!

Anonymous said...

Showing empathy , consideration , compassion , sensitivity , undertanding . Listening . Revealing that they are so deeply affected by others grief , sorrows and heartaches and they want to help them unselfishly .
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THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY show all these traits to lawyers. These are the reasons your life gets harder when you report a lawyer. The have another set of words for clients.

PUBLIC LEAFLETS PRINTED BY CLIENTS THAT IS THE WAY CLIENTS MUST GO, NOT TO CORRUPT SECRET UNIONS.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I have discovered my dad's solicitor has
been charging us an average of £500 for every transaction of transferring money in my dad's will this is outrageous what can we do about it there are 14 transfers of money back and forth from my dad's bank account of the same amount and the charges total up as £7216.45 and I've asked the solicitor to provide an explanation and he says he does not need to answer any of our letters now so we have been ripped off this is a fraud!

21 September 2012 12:56
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Yes, this is a well practised Fraud, which you seem to have got off Lightly......

Given the overt criminality of your crooked Scottish lawyer in enriching himself of your inheritance it is surprising there is ANY mo ey left?

Go to the Police and report him for theft?

Remember, the Chairman of the SSDT called instances like your as, 'BORROWING WITHOUT CONSENT' after the crooked lawyers had been CAUGHT & CHARGED and sent for sentencing? (This is what you are up against)

Scottish Lawyers are 'above the law' in Scotland that is why your lawyer has told you in no uncertain terms that he doesn't need to answer your letter because he believes he has an interest in your inheritance and intends to use your dead father as a 'CASH TREE'

When you go to the police, get a crime number from them (if they try to give you an incident number this means that they are patting you on the head and sending you on your way)?

Then report your crooked Scottish lawyer to your MSP and ask them to write to you with their remedy?

DO NOT go to the Law Society of Scotland because they are a criminal gang and never look after the victim in these scenarios because the Crown Office have their back?

Write to this crooked lawyer and put him on NOTICE that he is a crook and ask him how he intends to repay the money erroneously taken and if he fails ask him to turn himself in to the Police?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
sounds like Mr Cherbi has uncovered another massive scandal on how lawyers are literally 'making up' their bills and surprise surprise the regulators are allowing it all to happen unchecked just like the FSA and the banks etc

21 September 2012 15:25
Cccccccccrrrrrrrrooooooooookkkkkkkkkkssssssssss

They call their Clients their CASH TREES, where they can be cultivated so that their cash notes can be stripped off?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Do not report criminals to criminals. Go public with leaflets.

Lawyers are getting desperate having their people offering firms legal services in shopping arcades throughout Scotland. Have you all seen the stalls?

You lawyers have Douglas Mill and his criminal gang to thank for our change to the leaflet strategy because we have realized there is nothing but agony for us going to the Law Society or SLCC.

THERE IS NO POINT IN REPORTING ANY LAWYER. WHEN WE REPORT LAWYERS WE ARE HELPING LAWYERS BECAUSE OUR SUFFERING GETS 100 TIMES WORSE BECAUSE THE LAW SOCIETY AND SLCC ARE WORSE THAN OUR CROOKED LAWYER.

Name and shame them yourself.

22 September 2012 00:34
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The campaign of legal rape of Clients continues unabated?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Football matches have referees who are not members of the competing teams for a reason.

With the public and lawyers the referees are other lawyers. This blog is a direct result of a system where the client fights not one lawyer but 10,399, the final one being the Law Society's minister of injustice Kenny MacAskill. What do you think of the leaflets Kenny?

So them charging anything they want is legal because there is no one in place to make it illegal. You report your lawyers to those in offices their crimes remain within the office. But if all of you clients use public leaflets their secret network will be broken. There if a further advantage. Other ruined clients [who used the same law firm] are likely to live in the same town
as you. Lawyers do not want these links being created.


The solution is simple and easy to implement. We cannot get lawyers so use the legal system against law firms. Make them take legal action against us. If they take all leaflet distributors to court they cannot condemn all of us. Do not report your lawyer to his own referees, go public instead.

The Law Society and SLCC want to keep their lawyers conduct out of the public arena. Do not let them, deal with lawyers by all legal methods yourselves. After all it's your money they are helping themselves too.

23 September 2012 15:16
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(Cameron Buttle reporting on the floods, 'there has been widespled fudding')


Anyway, I love the football analogy.....?


The current criminal legal regime in place in Scotland is analogous to a Scottish lawyer (Team A) versus their Client (Team B) with the Law Society of Scotland as the referee.....?

This is not a 'level playing field'.....?


When Team B touches the ball the referee awards Team B a penalty kick and so on and so forth for the whole game.....If Team B misses the penalty then the referee awards an automatic retake......?

This is the Monopolistic Criminal Nightmare in Scotland?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The lawyer is the human version of the poisoned chalice, in many cases no good can come from dealing with them.

23 September 2012 02:19
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More like the Scottish crooked Lawyer is more like a rotten infested rat with the bubonic plague......and if you go near them you are certain to become ill or die....?

Anonymous said...

24 September 2012 15:39
Anonymous said...
Amid loud shrieks of laughter & disbelief from clients caught up in the Law Society’s infamously corrupt regulatory process, Ms Lorna Jack went onto claim in the press release that the Law Society is still interested in ‘delivering benefits for the public, Ms Jack continued : “Every element of our business has been re-examined in the planning process with a view to delivering benefits for the profession and the public in a cost effective way. We must retain the skills we need to do the job while reducing employment costs.”
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PUBLIC LEAFLETS PRINTED BY CLIENTS LORNA THAT IS THE WAY CLIENTS MUST GO, NOT TO YOUR CORRUPT SECRET UNION.

HELP YOURSELVES CLIENTS [THIS IS CRITICAL] BY NOT REPORTING YOUR LAWYER TO THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY. I LEARNED A FUNDAMENTAL TRUTH WITH THE LAWYERS BUREAUCRACY, ONLY YOU CAN EXPOSE YOUR CROOKED LAWYER. I PROMISE YOU ALL REPORTING A LAWYER TO THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE DRASTICALLY WORSE. MACASKILL DOES NOT WANT TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

DISTRIBUTE YOUR OWN LEAFLETS IS THE ONLY WAY THE PUBLIC WILL LEARN ABOUT YOUR LAWYER. DO NOT GO TO THE SLCC OR LAW SOCIETY BECAUSE THEY WILL KEEP YOUR CASE SECRET. CUT LAWYERS OUT OF THE COMPLAINTS LOOP, THEN IN TIME THE PUBLIC WILL KNOW WHAT SELF REGULATION MEANS, PERMANENTLY RUINED CLIENTS AND PERMANENTLY PROTECTED CROOKED LAWYERS.

THEIR COMPLAINTS SYSTEM WILL HAMMER YOU, THAT IS WHAT IT IS FOR. NEVER USE IT. HAND YOUR OWN TRUTHFUL LEAFLETS TO THE PUBLIC IN THE TOWN WHERE YOUR LAWYER WORKS.

FOR THOSE WHO HAVE WENT TO THE LAW SOCIETY LEAFLET SUGGESTION.

"LAW SOCIETY ALLOW BLOGS SOLICITORS TO RIP OFF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC". YOU HAVE THE CONTROL NOW CLIENTS, USE IT.

24 September 2012 22:30
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She should be nick-named Lorna Jack-Boot as the head of a criminal organisation gang that has its foot weighing heavily on the kneck of the Scottish People?

Her mumbo jumbo management gobbledygook speak is a pack of lies and the Trading Standards should look into her comments because she is lying to the Public?

Anonymous said...

Ms Jack of the Law Society, I hope people stop self regulation. How do clients achieve this?

Simple they must stop complaining to lawyers about lawyers. Stop complaining to the Commission & Law Society.

Clients if you want justice use leaflets. No Lawyer will sacrifice a colleague to obtain justice for you.

Anonymous said...

http://www.lawscot.org.uk/home#node-1064

http://www.scottishlegalcomplaints.com/home.aspx

Do not complain to these bureaucracies. You will get nowhere.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Cabinet Finance Chief John Swinney (then in opposition in 2006) knew how to ask some questions, yet he should be asking more.

Come on MSP's help your constituents. Mr Swinney crush Macaskill now.

24 September 2012 00:09
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C'mon John Swinney, YOU know all about these criminals at the Law Society of Scotland, yet they are still being allowed to act criminally against the Scottish Public?

Anonymous said...

Philip Yelland, the Law Society of Scotland’s director of standards, previously director of regulation and before that head of the Law Society’s “Client Relations Office” has been in charge of regulating crooked lawyers in Scotland for over TWENTY YEARS yet from Penman to the present and beyond, most crooked Scottish lawyers have either received a slap on the wrist or no punishment at all while the client ends up financially ruined and excluded from the courts to make sure justice can never be done. Would you trust anyone like this with your complaint ? Make sure you use the media first before trusting the Law Society or SLCC with your lawyer problems.
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Yes use any means other than the Law Society or Commission.

Anonymous said...

Ms Lorna Jack went onto claim in the press release that the Law Society is still interested in ‘delivering benefits for the public.

Do you believe this Lorna? If so you will send Peter an e mail stating distributing leaflets is a good idea because lawyers always protect clients.

Lawyers are filth Lorna you are fooling no one.

Anonymous said...

Scottish Public Beware?

Scotland is like a mighty warrior on the battlefield soldiering on step after step towards victory but alas she has a nasty alien entity inside of her, silent and deadly attaching itself to every organ of its host like an insidious dose of worms and drawing the strength and health away.....?

Come on Scotland we must get the worm tablets out and get rid of the evil infestation of lawyers that have inveigled themselves into every part of Scottish life?

Anonymous said...

Is it true that J.R.R. Tolkein wrote the Law of the Rings as an analogy of life and that he created the character of Gollum as a warning as to the dangers of Scottish crooked lawyers?

Where outwardly these Scottish crooked lawyers appear like you and I but that their characters are accurately portrayed by GOLLUM who has been turned by the dark side in his pursuit for money over all else?

In this same analogy the Law Society of Scotland has it seems been portrayed as SAUROMAN (which is a play on words and means what it actually says, 'sorrow of man')....... In other words the Law Society of Scotland's whole ideology seems to be to bring sorrow upon everyone they effect in Scotland?

Keep your eye out for any of the Law Society of Scotland's ORC's (Operative who Robs Clients...i.e. Scottish crooked lawyer) if you value your health or wealth?


Another student of this research has suggested another explanation of the Law Society of Scotland's ORC's as (Officially Registered Crook).......?

Which ever one J.R.R. TOLKEIN intended, both seem to apply rather well don't you think?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The lawyer is the human version of the poisoned chalice, in many cases no good can come from dealing with them.

23 September 2012 02:19
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More like the Scottish crooked Lawyer is more like a rotten infested rat with the bubonic plague......and if you go near them you are certain to become ill or die....?

25 September 2012 18:43
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More like the Scottish crooked lawyer is more like a genetically modified rat with bubonic plague (that cannot be killed) ...and if you go near them you are certain to become ill or die (just as their creators like it...)?

Anonymous said...

Just want to say a thank you after going through a long battle over fees with my solicitor who has now relented after I sent him a printout of this story and a promise to send you copies of his bills and very nasty,threatening letters to me for money he is not due.

Innocent republican said...

They are indeed very corrupt in Norfolk, and work within the circle
of the corrupted police force, I had a number of complaints and court cases running regarding Norfolk police the court refered my
cases to a court coroner who owned
a law firm, all evidence went missing against the police, my medical records were destoyed and a
fale set manufactured by the authotities, I was falsley detained
on seven occassions before kangaroo
courts where the press where allowed no access, I was hospitalised by police, who photocopies warrants of another detainee, they tipexed his name out
and superimposed his over the top,
they also forged my siignature on section papers and did the same thing with a deceased 87 year olds
medical records. put my name on his
records. during legal proceedings
all the files have gone missing. along with witness statements and tape recordings of interrogations,
the police came round and refered the case to the MP Chloe Smith, since that time I have been harassed subject to further deletions of state files from computors, had the police forge my signature on a statement falsely
claiming I wished to withdraw legal
action against them, they have forged so many documents the witnesses have been left in a state
of shock, and the MP appears to be
covering the matter up, whilst I am
subject to harassment at the same time, I have had visits from police
blackmail squads, maiming squads.And have been a subject of long intimidation by the Norwich Court, who have also participated in Blackmail to silence me in respect of activities of the local
police, the MP took a file containing
evidence against them promised to return it after making copies, and
now she refuses to do so, I was appointed yet another government
lawyer and again the files have gone missing.