Scotland’s judges to be asked for views on their own lack of transparency over personal interests, vast wealth. BY WHAT PRIVILEGE are highly paid Scottish Judges & Sheriffs allowed to conceal their substantial wealth, the origin of their investments, interests and other undeclared earnings according to rules written by themselves, asks a PUBLIC PETITION heard today by MSPs at the Scottish Parliament’s Petitions Committee.
The petition, inspired by legislation currently under consideration in New Zealand, calls for a published Register of Interests for Scotland’s highly paid Judges & Sheriffs who currently prefer to keep their vast and somewhat “interestingly arranged” wealth and in some cases, criminal records, hidden from public gaze, even when there are clear indications such wealth & interests conflict with the interests criminal & civil cases, being heard in Scotland’s courts.
However, and somewhat ironically, while the meeting of the Petitions Committee began with declarations of interests from its various members, a requirement politicians must comply with, a somewhat stony silence descended on the Committee when members were asked for their views on the petition which calls for members of the judiciary to be required to comply with similar rules of disclosing their financial & other interests in court.
MSPs ask legal profession, Scottish Govt. for views on a Petition PE1458 : Register of Interests for Judges Petition (Click video to view the debate)
Petitions Committee Convener David Stewart MSP (Scottish Labour) opened debate on the petition : The fourth and final new petition is Petition PE1458 by Peter Cherbi on the register of interests for members of Scotland's judiciary and members have a note by the clerks spice briefing and the petition and like other members i think there is some additional papers from the petitioner and that involves some press coverage and the press coverage involved some comments about six judges who have been convicted of crimes since 2005 i think the petitioner was very keen that was made public in terms of the interests of his particular petition.
Convener : Can I throw this open and ask for members views on this petition
Jackson Carlaw MSP (Conservative) said : I have to say similar to the last petition I find this slightly clumsy and unnecessary and at this stage as far as i can see on the basis of something that is envisaged potentially but not actually currently being implemented in New Zealand however I am quite happy for us to at this stage to seek the advice of the Scottish Government and the Lord President as to what his view would be on this and perhaps actually ask for some sort of indication or report as to what information has been forthcoming in terms of the way in which any system that's been operating up to this point has been functioning.
Convener : Thank you for that. Are members agreeable?
John Wilson MSP (SNP) said : Can I also add if we are going to write out seeking views we write to the Faculty of Advocates and the Law Society of Scotland for their views o this issue because clearly as Jackson Carlaw indicated the petition makes reference to the New Zealand case which arose because the very fact that a judge was judging a case where there was a lawyer before him where it is alleged the judge owed a substantial amount of money to and that could have created a [something] the case in terms of before the New Zealand courts so could I suggest we also write to the Faculty of Advocates and the Law Society just to get their views on whether otr not they think this would be appropriate at this time to go forward with any legislation.
Convener : Thank you for that. Are members agreeable ?
Given that the Petitions Committee have now decided to ask the Scottish Government, the Lord President Lord Gill, the Faculty of Advocates and the Law Society of Scotland for their views on this petition, it will be interesting to see just what arguments the professions, the judiciary and the Scottish Government put forward for excluding Judges from the accepted norms of full transparency of those key decision makers in Scots public life.
If the Judges have nothing to hide from a register of interests, then they have nothing to fear. We are often told the same as members of the public, therefore the same criteria should apply to those in the courts who are making decisions which affect us all in one way or another.
PETITION BACKGROUND :
Petition PE01458: Register of Interests for members of Scotland's judiciary calls for the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to create a Register of Pecuniary Interests of Judges Bill (as is currently being considered in New Zealand's Parliament) or amend present legislation to require all members of the Judiciary in Scotland to submit their interests & hospitality received to a publicly available Register of Interests. Diary of Injustice has featured coverage of the petition in earlier reports, Register of Interests for Judges.
The petition also features references to debate in the Parliament of New Zealand who are considering legislation to create a register of interests for the judiciary. It is time for Scotland to move in the same direction and create a similar register of interests for the judiciary of Scotland and all its members, increasing the transparency of the judiciary and ensuring public confidence in their actions & decisions.
The full details of the New Zealand Register of Pecuniary Interests of Judges Bill, should be looked at for a model of similar legislation in Scotland, can be viewed online here Register of Pecuniary Interests of Judges Bill.
The New Zealand Law Commission’s discussion paper on a register of judicial interests which recommends further inclusion of court staff in a register of interests, can be downloaded here : NZLC IP21 - Towards a New Courts Act: A Register of Judges pecuniary interests? (pdf)
In comparison to New Zealand’s effort to ensure transparency in the judiciary, Scotland’s judges and the Scotish Government have, unsurprisingly backed away from any similar measures, even concealing criminal charges and convictions of Scottish judges, where in one case a Scottish judge was charged with fiddling benefits claims, exposed in a Diary of Injustice investigation into Judge’s financial fiddles, here : CAREER CROOKED : Investigation reveals Scottish judges are CONVICTED CRIMINALS, Drunk Drivers,Tax Dodgers & alleged BENEFITS CHEATS
The on-going investigation by Diary of Injustice into members of Scotland’s judiciary has already revealed a series of judges appear to be involved in OFFSHORE TAX AVOIDANCE schemes, associations with convicted criminals & organised crime, prostitution rackets, accepting hospitality & payments from well known corrupt solicitors representing dodgy law firms while others on the bench are engaging in questionable investments & duties which appear to be in conflict with their positions as members of the judiciary. More on these findings can be read in an earlier article here : Offshore trusts, property holdings, insurance syndicates, hospitality from dodgy lawyers, yet no plans for a register of interests for Scottish judges
The Sunday Mail newspaper has reported on the petition for a register of Judicial Interests, here :
Petition to hold judges to account
by Russell Findlay
Sunday Mail November 04 2012
A legal campaigner has urged MSPs to create a register of interests for Scotland’s judges.
Peter Cherbi has secured a Scottish Parliament petition calling for all sheriffs and judges to declare financial interests and hospitality.
The legal blogger from Edinburgh, said: “Like those in other areas of public life, members of the judiciary should be required to disclose their interests, financial or otherwise.
“This would increase transparency and help to ensure public confidence in their actions and decisions.
“It has been suggested to me some judges have offshore investments for the purpose of tax avoidance while others may have shares or other connections to businesses.”
Cherbi was inspired by a similar proposed law which is being debated in New Zealand.
The closing date for the online petition is December 7.
Judges were issued with ethical guidelines which were drawn up by senior judges headed by Lord Osborne two years ago.
The Judicial Office for Scotland: “We do not hold a register of hospitality for members of the judiciary and there are no plans to do so.”
154 comments:
sounds like they gave themselves the privilege to keep their interests secret - just try this line with the taxman and you will be in a court in front of one of these judges asap..
Nice one.The judges must hate your guts for this!
Clumsy Mr Carlaw? Well you have to abide by a register of interests too so why is it clumsy for judges? or would you rather not have a register of interests for politicians?
Interesting start to the New Year,Peter and a happy one to you too!
I predict the Law Society, FoA & Scottish Government will all reject your idea for transparency in the courts simply because our courts are too rotten & corrupt to be transparent.
I wonder which way Lord Gill will swing?
If he says no then he's against transparency too and so much for his take on Victorian justice!
Benefits cheating judges omg no wonder the politicos want to keep this secret!
Prediction on the replies from :
Law Society : No because our members become judges and we dont want them declaring their wealth they earned when they were lawyers and beyond.
Faculty of Advocates : No because our members become judges and we dont want them appearing to be on the fiddle or biased.
Scottish Government : No because we need the judges to rule in our favour when we want to fuck over the Scottish people with unjust laws.
Lord Gill : No because you can trust us we are the judges!
Actually this petition may end up as a great indicator of Scots justice as in completely prejudiced and lacking ANY transparency whatsoever!
These judges are the same people who tell us we all have to abide by the law yet they write the law in their own favour so they don't need to abide by it.If that's not criminal I don't know what is.
Keep up the good work!
Scotland’s judges to be asked for views on their own lack of transparency over personal interests, vast wealth ??????
Do these twits expect them to say Go ahead and do it????
They want views from the Scottish Government, Law Society and the Lord President.
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The LPLA Act was destroyed to protect lawyers. They have decided to kill the petition too. Sorry DOI I am no prophet, don't need to be. I know what they stand for. I know what they are and so do you. They have a massive conflict of interest against the public, hell bent on their own protectionism. MSP's f**k off. You are unpaid members of the Law Society. The Scottish Government, Law Society and the Lord President are a unit.
Imagine if MPs said this about refusing to have a register of interests after their expenses scandal so why do the judges get away with it ?
Good thing none of this lot were around when WW2 broke out because they all sound like the kind who would take a reserved occupation cleaning up farm manure.
Why we need a Scottish Parliament I do not know if all they do is start off on a negative note every time something worthwhile is presented to them for action.
So these judges want to keep their riches from us while their TORY pals are cutting benefits to the bone and throwing people on the scrapheap.And just why are the SNP so mealy mouthed about this jesus christ I could just about hear a pin drop when the guy asked for members comments on it..
Actually if you think about it Peter you will end up with the Law Society,MSPS and Advocates ganging up on you once again telling us lots of reasons why these judges should be allowed to keep their interests secret so in fact it will only bolster your credibility even more.Well done Sir!
With all due respect Lord Gill is going to look a bit out of step if he continues to argue he and his colleagues do not need to disclose what the rest of us are forced to whenever we apply for a job,pay our taxes,apply for benefits etc etc
This is a first calling of the petition,right?Didn't the PPC ask for oral evidence from the petitioner?
lol was just watching your video clip and have to ask are these people using the English language or what because about half of what they are saying is incoherent haha a lot worse than the Westminster parly
I know exactly what is going on here because I was at the Court of Session last year for my medical injury claim only to be told by my solicicitor that my QC had to be careful what he said because the judge in our case was friendly with the law firm representing the insurers and was a regular at their offices.If it helps any I can send you the stuff on my case and my counsels opinion saying everything was in my favour yet I lost of course and my solicitor pins the blame of it on the judge himself and the regular dishonesty of the defenders in court.
Have to say this is such a good idea all countries should implement it and get away from these myths about trusting judges without question which frankly in today's world is just not on.
Well I'm not too enthralled with the overall performance of the PPC today but at least the Convener talked about the newspaper coverage of the six judges convicted of crimes.Probably the first time I've ever heard something like this spoken in the Scottish Parliament.
Good luck for your petition and keep on hammering away at them.
Jackson Carlaw MSP (Conservative) said : I have to say similar to the last petition I find this slightly clumsy and unnecessary and at this stage as far as I can see on the basis of something that is envisaged potentially but not actually currently being implemented in New Zealand.
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So kill it off in Scotland Jackson. They will self regulate and kill it off. This guy like are MSP's are Law Society activists. Civil courts review spin from Gill.
Bring your legal business to Scotland people where we are not told about Judges convictions.
Clearly these judges are wealthy this is not in doubt and all judges are themselves former solicitors or advocates who have long held interests in the legal profession and most probably the financial industry.
So,can anyone tell us why it is not a good idea to require judges to declare all their interests because I cant see any excuse for this not to be made into law immediately.
Salmond,MacAskill and the whole Holyrood pantomime club will not allow this to go forward because they need the judges to act as enforcers of their political ambitions.They are all in bed with each other and it is impossible to get any justice in Scotland as long as this continues but well done for bringing up the subject so we can all talk about it now and point the finger at these crooks in the judiciary and their political allies.
Not to sound critical however I hope to see you publish more articles this year than last given you are almost the sole credible source of real news from inside Scotland's best to be avoided justice system.
Jackson Carlaw MSP (Conservative) said : I have to say similar to the last petition I find this slightly clumsy and unnecessary and at this stage as far as i can see on the basis of something that is envisaged potentially but not actually currently being implemented in New Zealand however I am quite happy for us to at this stage to seek the advice of the Scottish Government and the Lord President as to what his view would be on this and perhaps actually ask for some sort of indication or report as to what information has been forthcoming in terms of the way in which any system that's been operating up to this point has been functioning.
Convener : Thank you for that. Are members agreeable?
John Wilson MSP (SNP) said : Can I also add if we are going to write out seeking views we write to the Faculty of Advocates and the Law Society of Scotland for their views o this issue because clearly as Jackson Carlaw indicated the petition makes reference to the New Zealand case which arose because the very fact that a judge was judging a case where there was a lawyer before him where it is alleged the judge owed a substantial amount of money to and that could have created a [something] the case in terms of before the New Zealand courts so could I suggest we also write to the Faculty of Advocates and the Law Society just to get their views on whether or not they think this would be appropriate at this time to go forward with any legislation.
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ASK AWAY THEY ARE AGAINST IT, LIKE TURKEYS VOTING FOR XMAS. THESE MSP FUCKERS ARE UNBELIEVABLE.
“Like those in other areas of public life, members of the judiciary should be required to disclose their interests, financial or otherwise.
“This would increase transparency and help to ensure public confidence in their actions and decisions.
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Don't think any of them are honest.
Your petition appears to have installed much fear in the politicians so much I'm amazed anyone had the guts to talk after the Convener asked for comments.
Tne New Zealand case involving the Judge Bill Wilson who resigned is not so straightforward and you should be in no doubt the NZ judiciary moved to cover the whole thing up and even axed the judicial panel set up to investigate Wilson's conduct.
I imagine your Scottish judiciary are just as quick to cover up scandals against their own colleagues and therefore could see them blocking any parliamentary moves to create a register of interests.
See more here
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/messy-affair-a-blow-to-courts-sanctity-20100902-14riy.html
and here
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10682122
where it was revealed Wilson received a year's salary of $410,000 when he 'resigned'.
At least we don't have any benefits cheats in our judiciary,well at least none that I know of.
Nice respectable people these wealthy property owning judges and their state funded through their salary privately educated families who get away with threatening raping & stabbing the rest of us eh
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/vile-threat-sent-to-girlfriend-of-rangers-1314619
Son of High Court judge tells David Templeton's girlfriend: Enjoy getting raped in Glasgow
ROBYN WALKER was the target of a series of lurid and threatening messages sent when her boyfriend decided to move from Hearts to Rangers.
A HIGH Court judge’s son told Rangers star David Templeton’s girlfriend she was going to be raped after he signed for the Glasgow club.
The message sent to Robyn Walker from the Twitter account of the privately educated
teenager said: “Enjoy getting raped and stabbed in Glasgow you wench.”
The 16-year-old’s father promised to “deal with it” when the message was brought to his attention by the Sunday Mail.
Did you deal with it Mr judge or did you get him off the hook? I see no charges in the papers
Oh look its a judge releasing a man accused of rape must be related to the other story I quoted from the record about the judge's son threatening rape and murder!
http://www.firmmagazine.com/news/555/Lord_Brailsford_comes_under_fire.html
25 Sep 2006
Lord Brailsford comes under fire
Recently appointed High Court Judge Lord Brailsford caused a storm after releasing an illegal immigrant accused of rape on bail.
Subsequently the accused man fled and has since failed to report to Stirling Police as instructed by Brailsford
Lord Brailsford opted not to hold Romanian Vasilica Potolinca in custody until his trial despite him not having a fixed address, despite a motion from the Crown Office requesting that he be held until he faced the charges in court.
The 22-year old Romanian stood accused of an attempted rape in Stirling while his victim was on a night out in the city.
He appeared in Stirling Sheriff Court and was remanded to Barlinnie Prison. After a bail application on 14th September at the High Court Potolinca was released and ordered to report to his local police station on a daily basis,which he failed to do immediately.
Lord Brailsford was only appointed as a High Court judge earlier this year at the same time as Lady Clark, Lord Turnbull and Lord Uist.
No wonder your courts/judges are out of control crooks with this Scottish Parliament in charge.Seriously your legislature looks and sounds like a PTA meeting!
Completely barking!
Too many bent lawyers end up becoming judges and misusing their office and there are no rules against it because they write the rules themselves
Anonymous said...
No wonder your courts/judges are out of control crooks with this Scottish Parliament in charge.Seriously your legislature looks and sounds like a PTA meeting!
Completely barking!
8 January 2013 23:16
COULDN'T HAVE PUT IT BETTER MYSELF
Anonymous said...
I know exactly what is going on here because I was at the Court of Session last year for my medical injury claim only to be told by my solicicitor that my QC had to be careful what he said because the judge in our case was friendly with the law firm representing the insurers and was a regular at their offices.
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Your lawyer, doctor, QC, consultants examining you are all insured by RSA. In your case like mine you are claiming against doctors and the Law Society of Scotland's insurers. It is a scam, ask your lawyer who his professional indemnity insurers are. YOUR LAWYER HAS TO BE CAREFUL. HIS LAW SOCIETY WILL TAKE AWAY HIS PRACTICING CERTIFICATE IF YOU WON DAMAGES. THESE PROFESSIONS ARE RSA.
Reading the comments I see all readers see things the way they really are. You MSP creeps will not pull the wool over our eyes. MSP's will never protect the public. Great work DOI Team, you tell the truth about this confederacy of liars and deceivers led by the bent MSP protected Law Society of Scotland.
Anonymous said...
With all due respect Lord Gill is going to look a bit out of step if he continues to argue he and his colleagues do not need to disclose what the rest of us are forced to whenever we apply for a job,pay our taxes,apply for benefits etc etc.
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Personally l think Lord Gill will keep the Victorian system because it is all about money not justice. He is not going to s**t in his own and the profession's nest.
Scottish Parliament a disgrace.
There is something seriously wrong here where judges are getting away with not declaring anything.
Presume they are compromised from the outset.As a solicitor,I do.
Clumsy, yes your right Mr Carlow it was very clumsy of them to get caught. Word of warning from someone who knows. If you vote independence our streets will resemble Belfast with riots & no go areas. These ignorant bastards are for themselves & dont give a flying fuck for Scotland.
"If the Judges have nothing to hide from a register of interests, then they have nothing to fear. We are often told the same as members of the public, therefore the same criteria should apply to those in the courts who are making decisions which affect us all in one way or another."
Sounds like they do have something to hide otherwise they would be registering their interests right now!
Anonymous said...
Prediction on the replies from :
Law Society : No because our members become judges and we dont want them declaring their wealth they earned when they were lawyers and beyond.
Faculty of Advocates : No because our members become judges and we dont want them appearing to be on the fiddle or biased.
Scottish Government : No because we need the judges to rule in our favour when we want to fuck over the Scottish people with unjust laws.
Lord Gill : No because you can trust us we are the judges!
Actually this petition may end up as a great indicator of Scots justice as in completely prejudiced and lacking ANY transparency whatsoever!
8 January 2013 15:29
You have a knack of foretelling the future!
Anonymous said...
Your petition appears to have installed much fear in the politicians so much I'm amazed anyone had the guts to talk after the Convener asked for comments.
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Fear yes of the public catching on that their MSP's want to protect the legal profession at all costs. Equal legal rights as Scotland shows are impossible even in a so called democracy, because our elected MSP's all have the same attitude as Mr MacAskill. Protect lawyers.
Benefits are taken to pay legal fees and our MSP's human rights abusers turn a blind eye or resign. The truth is that in matters of law Scotland is a Law Society oligarchy where the MSP's make policy to favour lawyers [the few] at the expense of the Scottish electorate. The Lord President and his subordinates are simply oligarchs supported by their MSP lackeys who keep their
interests protected by secrecy. The expenses scandal at Westminster proved what happens when they operate in an atmosphere of secrecy.
Still up to form Peter I see and all the better for it.
Just look at how you shut up all those politicians when your petition came up.Brilliant!
Pity you are not in politics with the way you write and tackle the real issues although I understand your reasons for avoiding it all.
Keep up the good work as always !
Clearly this is going no further than the committee asking for more information and I wouldnt be surprised if the Law Society and judges have already told them not to do anything more with it.
Anonymous said...
Clearly these judges are wealthy this is not in doubt and all judges are themselves former solicitors or advocates who have long held interests in the legal profession and most probably the financial industry.
So,can anyone tell us why it is not a good idea to require judges to declare all their interests because I cant see any excuse for this not to be made into law immediately.
8 January 2013 20:49
As far as I can see there are no good reasons for this not to go ahead.
However I am 100% sure after reading this story and the previous reports these judges are up to no good in their outside work hours (probably also during work hours) so it is safe to say they will not comply and lets face it even if a register of interests is created how can it be policed and how can we expect the judges to be honest when it already looks like they are crooks.
Well done to the single politician who spoke about the judges convicted of criminal offences!
I'd like to point something out to Mr Cherbi although I suspect he is already aware of this.The Lord President does not need the Scottish Parliament or Scottish Government to legislate the judiciary to maintain a register of interests dimply because the Lord President has the power to enact it himself.I'm sure Peter must be aware of this because the publishing of Judges expenses which Mr Cherbi's earlier campaign brought about was enacted without any intervention from Holyrood.
"I wonder which way Lord Gill will swing?"
in favour of his colleagues on the bench I suppose..
Waste of time really and its obvious they have it in for you at Holyrood.
These ignorant bastards are for themselves & don't give a flying fuck for Scotland.
Spot on. All they want is maximum £££££££££££££££££ and no dissent.
Anonymous said...
Nice one. The judges must hate your guts for this!
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Yes they cannot stand their activities under the microscope.
More news on crooked lawyers please!
If the Committee boss had shouted out "Who wants more money for doing bugger all" every single msp would say "Yes" and talk about all the alleged good they do (only for themselves)
Crown Office under pressure to expose benefit cheating Judge
March 14, 2012 04:46 THEUNHIVEDMIND Leave a Comment
MSP calls on Crown Office to reveal name of benefits cheat judge
Mar 12 2012 By Magnus Gardham
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/03/12/msp-calls-on-crown-office-to-reveal-name-of-benefits-cheat-judge-86908-23785375/
THE Crown Office came under fresh pressure yesterday to name a judge who has been convicted of benefit fraud.
SNP MSP John Finnie, a member of Holyrood’s justice committee, added his weight to the demands for the cheating judge to be publicly identified.
It emerged at the weekend that six judges have been convicted of offences since 2005.
Five were found guilty of road traffic offences but one of them admitted fiddling benefits.
It is not known whether the person was a high court judge, a sheriff or a justice of the peace.
Nor is it known how much cash was defrauded.
The Crown Office, who will not even confirm if the judge was male or female, insisted secrecy was “in the public interest”.
But Finnie said yesterday: “The law should treat everyone equally, regardless of who they are and what they do, and this is something that should be looked into.”
The Crown Office often name and shame benefit fraudsters by issuing press releases about them.
Campaigner Peter Cherbi, who uncovered the secrecy, said: “People in front of a judge should know if they have a criminal record.”
so the Crown Office are also in this deal keeping the judges dirty secrets..
Anonymous said...
Waste of time really and its obvious they have it in for you at Holyrood.
9 January 2013 18:34
Must disagree as this is certainly not a waste of time now people are actually talking about it.Now if only the rest of the press would take up the issue then we might get somewhere.After all in who's interests is it that judges are allowed to get away with not declaring their financial/other interests?
As far as I am concerned a good few of these judges are as dirty as hell as those who end up before them..
The first thing a potential MSP will do is promise to obey the Law Society of Scotland. Benefits flow both ways to ensure lawyer omnipotence will not be diminished. They are the same criminal gang.
Hospitality for judges ?
Bungs & Bribes?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-20969134
Iain Gray MSP makes bus regulation bill bid
FirstGroup buses Iain Gray's plans focus on bus routes, timetables and fares
The former leader of Scottish Labour has proposed a parliamentary bill aimed at strengthening regulation in the Scottish bus industry.
Iain Gray wants local councils to be able to bundle together profitable and loss-making routes and offer them as a package bus firms can bid for.
His plans also include monitoring the quality of vehicles used.
The proposed Regulation of Bus Services (Scotland) Bill comes after an earlier attempt to strengthen bus regulation.
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No regulation of lawyers Mr Gray MSP. You are all the same.
NOT A WASTE OF TIME THIS HAS TO COME OUT IMAGINE HOW PEOPLE FEEL IN FRONT OF A JUDGE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE IS IMPARTIAL YET IT TURNS OUT THE JUDGE IS AS RICH AS ALL THE LAWYERS AND ON THEIR SIDE NOT ON THE PUBLIC SIDE WHO PAYS FOR ALL THEIR JOLLIES
Anonymous said...
Having spent most of my life abroad self employed working in the oil industry I decided to come home to Scotland and "throttle back" . Being undecided on what kind of property to buy "I'am still a batchelor" rented a small cottage. I had never found it necessary to have a lawyer ,friends I had made were in the legal business and I got by on freebies I wish I could say the same for my accountants. A lawyer in Aberdeenshire was recommended to me , but a neighbour informed me that he had been mentioned on two web-sites for misconduct Solicitors From Hell [THE LAW SOCIETIES CLOSED IT TO STOP PEOPLE FINDING OUT WHAT SCUM THEY ARE] and Scotland Against Crooked Lawyers, [CATHY JAMIESON TRIED TO CLOSE THEM DOWN TOO] I understood this lawyer the one man business BANSKI & CO also held a post with the LSS and before I had made contact with this lawyer he was struck off by the LSS,[MUST HAVEE OFFENDED OTHER LAWYERS IF HE GOT STRUCK OFF] All this I believe involves stealing money and several clients are involved, but the most surprising the police are not involved [LSS CONTROL THE POLICE] the LSS have contained it all within the complaints system . Surely this can not be correct. [THEY DO THIS BECAUSE THEY CAN] This is what I would have expected in some of the third world countries I have worked and was well warned of. I then had a leaflet [OH YES THEY WORK] handed to me by a young girl in her early teens it explained how her grandfather had battled with the Legal System and had involved politicians all to no avail. [ALL THE SAME UNIT] Having read through the leaflet it would appear that there is absolutely no point trying to persue a complaint through the "SYSTEM" [SPOT ON YOU ARE 100% CORRECT] and it would appear MSP's have no input whatsoever !!!! [OH YES THEY DO, THEY SHAPE POLICY TO PLEASE THE LSS NOT THE PUBLIC] what are they there for, if my local MSP has a local meeting or surgery I certainly want some answers and I will record the event lets all do the same ,this "mess" can not be allowed to continue let us all unite through D.O.I.
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Yes indeed. l have used leaflets myself. If we handed out leaflets stating LSS PROTECT LAWYERS WHO STEAL MORTGAGE MONEY PEOPLE WILL BE INTERESTED.
REPORTING LAWYERS HELPS THEM, A FRUSTRATING POINTLESS EXPERIENCE.
Judge Tugendhat closed Solicitors from Hell. His ruling "even if the client feedback was true it amounted to harassment of lawyers".
See http://www.intmensorg.info/rogues.htm
Judge Tugendhat closed Solicitors from Hell. His ruling "even if the client feedback was true it amounted to harassment of lawyers".
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Tugendhat meant the legal profession cannot claim damages when Solicitors from Hell feedback was true so use harassment laws to close the site. And he is a member of the Law Society of England and Wales.
Oh Tugendhat, I nearly forgot what about your interests? Anything to declare? How do we know if you are honest whilst having great omnipotence as a public servant?
The day is coming when clients will destroy self regulation by [not reporting their lawyers to the Law Societies of the United kingdom].
You cannot expose any lawyer through their secret complaints channels. The Law Societies of the United kingdom think we are scum to be abused for profit. More fool them.
Have to agree with those who say this wont go anywhere and this is probably to do with the fact the judges are dishonest and have been for a long time.If they start declaring now and someone gets wind of them changing around their finances or interests before a register takes effect we will all know for certain they have been skewing verdicts in their vested interests for years.
MSPs ask legal profession, Scottish Govt. for views on a Petition PE1458.
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They are not fit to answer such a question, because they are not on the receiving end of the legal professions corruption. Bunch of crooked bastards control Scotland.
If they have nothing to fear then they have nothing to hide so lets be having all your details made public m'luds because this is exactly the same thing you keep telling all of us in court.
I saw that rather snooty rebuff by the Supreme Court justices over the idea of a register of interests however what they are forgetting is before they had the Supreme Court this was handled in the House of Lords were all members have to submit a register of interests http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/standards-and-interests/register-of-lords-interests
So, all in all a very good idea from New Zealand to extend this idea to our judiciary and very happy to see someone like Mr Cherbi able to raise it in the terms he has.Good luck all.
http://www.intmensorg.info/
see Legal Mafia tab.
www.intmensorg.info
'First the Law Society of England and Wales shuts down the Solicitors from Hell website. They claim that exposing lawyers crooked ways are a form of harassment and the judges (no juries) agreed. No coincidence the judges happen to be members of the Law Society of England and Wales with a major conflict of interest.
Another site opened up Solicitors from Hell 2 hoping to continue the job the Solicitors from Hell website was doing but this time located in America and outside the Law Societies jurisdiction. However it also has been closed down with no reason why the information it published can no longer be accessed.
A third site opened up Cowboy solicitors and it has also closed down without any reason given. We ourselves have been subject to attack over many years and have had to use at least 20 or more web hoster's to continue to [expose the threat lawyers pose to men across the globe] caught up in their dodgy legal scams.
Sinister the degree to which they control the complicit compliant media [OH YES] and who seem determined to shut down the TRUTH about their scams now being exposed across the internet by their victims, or those victims that survived the destructive forces that continue behind closed secretive courtrooms".
THEY WILL DESTROY YOU LIVES FOR ££££££££££££ AND WHEN YOU COMPLAIN COVER THEIR CRIMES UP. A RADICALLY EVIL GROUP, AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS PEOPLE. THEY ARE ANTI-JUSTICE AND WANT US SILENCED.
Well,whatever happens next it will be interesting to read the Lord President's excuses for his colleagues being able to keep their interests hidden from the rest of us.Also what about that benefits cheating judge why has he/she not been named and why are the Crown Office keeping all the details secret?Perhaps the judge has convicted a few people on the Crown Office say so and now the favour is being called in?
More injustice for justice?
The Judicial Office for Scotland: “We do not hold a register of hospitality for members of the judiciary and there are no plans to do so.”
Judicial arrogance at its most extreme.Clearly we need this register of interests like yesterday.
Again this will come down to how we can trust the judges to be honest and fill in their register of interests and then how will it be regulated and what sanctions will exist if a judge is discovered to have withheld information.Like most of the comments here I dont think the judges can be trusted and a good example of this is the politicians who are already required to register their interests but we always see a few of them caught out failing to declare and also fiddling their expenses and guess what,they usually keep their jobs.That being said I support your idea 100% and hope it becomes law soon.This will give us a great insight into these people sitting at the top of the courts system and what they get up to.
Keep up the good work !
Well I think I speak for plenty when I say a "No" to this idea is going to make the judges look even more crooked than they may actually be!
I have heard lawyers talking about judges and which ones they prefer to be in front of because they know the judge is involved with another law firm or has a bias or something like that so this information is not so far away if the lawyers know about it to that extent.
The sooner its all made public and in a register for us all to see the better.
Have to say I find the MSPs asking for the views of the judges on whether they should have a register of interests yet not asking for members of the public to give their views is A BIT UNDEMOCRATIC surely?
Ah it sounds like the judges power went to their head and they got greedy just like everyone else.Tut tut M'lords its time to pull you off your perches and remember you should be just as accountable as the rest of us are forced to be by the rules you lay down in your courts.
Even if they agree the register will be full of lies. Secrecy is their greatest weapon. Their world is a world of deception with a veneer of respectability that is being constantly eroded. Its time to judge the judges.
Anonymous said...
Good thing none of this lot were around when WW2 broke out because they all sound like the kind who would take a reserved occupation cleaning up farm manure.
Why we need a Scottish Parliament I do not know if all they do is start off on a negative note every time something worthwhile is presented to them for action.
8 January 2013 17:17
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Note that NOT ONE of these actors raised an eyebrow that they were being put on NOTICE that our Judges & Sheriffs are crooks?
If they had the slightest care for the Scottish Public they would have recommended an immediate Public Inquiry and would have referred the matter to the police such that Judges & Sheriffs seemed to be I posters in that they were acting ultra varies?
Anonymous said...
With all due respect Lord Gill is going to look a bit out of step if he continues to argue he and his colleagues do not need to disclose what the rest of us are forced to whenever we apply for a job,pay our taxes,apply for benefits etc etc
8 January 2013 19:03
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If they do not comply forthwith then the Scottish Public should throw them out into the street and barricade the doors until persons more suitable, with moral integrity can be found?
C'mon Les Miserables!
Anonymous said...
I know exactly what is going on here because I was at the Court of Session last year for my medical injury claim only to be told by my solicicitor that my QC had to be careful what he said because the judge in our case was friendly with the law firm representing the insurers and was a regular at their offices.If it helps any I can send you the stuff on my case and my counsels opinion saying everything was in my favour yet I lost of course and my solicitor pins the blame of it on the judge himself and the regular dishonesty of the defenders in court.
8 January 2013 20:00
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An eminent QC said on BBC Radio Scotland that Scottish miscarriages of justice were common place in Scotland?
Anonymous said...
The day is coming when clients will destroy self regulation by [not reporting their lawyers to the Law Societies of the United kingdom].
You cannot expose any lawyer through their secret complaints channels. The Law Societies of the United kingdom think we are scum to be abused for profit. More fool them.
10 January 2013 12:47
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CASH TREES?
Even with a register of interests they can be guilty of dishonest practices such as bribery, lacking integrity, crooked corrupt judges, debased in character, depraved, perverters of justice, wicked, evil.
Secrecy protects them all. It is impossible for them to prove they are fit for public office.
WOW! Just came across this story after reading about it elsewhere
I'm surprised they didn't make Jimmy Savile a Scottish judge as he seems to have all the right qualifications for it and the hairdo!
Good old self regulation comes to the rescue of the judges again - they just cant shake it off from their days as lawyers can they, writing their own rules to suit their lifestyle and make sure they can keep their dirty secrets.
Well for my money this lot may as well all be wearing the Klu Klux Klan pointy hats and burn their victims at a pole because that is exactly what they are doing in the courts always giving the insurance companies etc the favourable (and favours) hearings its that obvious has been going on for years and will continue to be the same until someone gets a grip of this group of little hitlers and its not just me who thinks this - If you ask plenty of people who are the worse, bankers or lawyers or judges I reckon most will answer something like aren't they all about the same!
http://www.intmensorg.info/crookedlawyer4.htm
We have warned for a very long time how lawyers and their law societies are trying to take control of the internet as they have done with the complete control of the mass media via media lawyers. The only reason they have been getting away with MURDER is how they have been able to hide their criminality through a compliant and complicit media.
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Never trust lawyers unless you want your life utterly ruined from this scourge on humanity.
http://www.intmensorg.info/crookedlawyer4.htm
As we have been reporting for years Legal aid is the golden goose of the legal mafia. They have been stealing decent men's livelihoods in civil courts to prop up the criminal lawyers making a fortune from defending their serial criminal thug pals
Fourten lawyers reported after being accused of fiddling Legal Aid - but not one prosecution
LEGAL aid bosses have reported 14 lawyers to prosecutors for allegedly fiddling a fortune in taxpayers' cash - but not a single one has been put in the dock. Eleven suspected fraud cases were marked no proceedings, one lawyer was declared insane, one died and the other is still being considered.
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Criminals are doing the regulating. Do you think they will get prosecuted for stealing your cash?
Must admit this is a great idea although I am equally shocked the judges are not required to declare their interests to anyone!
The Judicial Office for Scotland: “We do not hold a register of hospitality for members of the judiciary and there are no plans to do so.”
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ALL CRIMINALS MSP's LAWYERS, JUDGES, ALL PROTECTIONIST CROOKS RUNNING AN INVISIBLE SYSTEM OF CORRUPTION. NOT ONE OF THEM ARE FIT FOR THE POSITION THEY ARE IN.
Anonymous said...
Imagine if MPs said this about refusing to have a register of interests after their expenses scandal so why do the judges get away with it ?
8 January 2013 16:55
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Because they are above the law?
Anonymous said...
Have to agree with those who say this wont go anywhere and this is probably to do with the fact the judges are dishonest and have been for a long time.If they start declaring now and someone gets wind of them changing around their finances or interests before a register takes effect we will all know for certain they have been skewing verdicts in their vested interests for years.
10 January 2013 14:26
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Why do you think they are stalling for time?
Whatever the difficulties or more like obstructions put in the way of making this happen I believe it has to happen and the judges must be made as accountable as the rest of us have to be.
After the guy announced the judges had been convicted of criminal records you would have thought someone might have expressed an opinion or shock but nothing,not a word.
Kind of sums up the Scottish Parliament in a nutshell - a useless and expensive burden on the entire UK not just Scotland.
After the guy announced the judges had been convicted of criminal records you would have thought someone might have expressed an opinion or shock but nothing,not a word.
Kind of sums up the Scottish Parliament in a nutshell - a useless and expensive burden on the entire UK not just Scotland.
14 January 2013 18:19
Good point.
Either these msps are cowards or just not interested because they are already owned by the legal establishment.
Either way something like this has to be a warning what Scotland will be like under independence as in the public not having the right to know about the justice system and probably not having any rights at all.
"An independent Scotland will be a modern democracy and a modern democracy should have a written constitution”
Alex Salmond First Minister and SNP leader.
"A written constitution” Alex by whome the Law Society of Scotland? This guy is a lawyer protector.
Well are any of you surprised how the msps all shut up when asked for their views?
I asked my msp to help me with a problem about a complaint to the Law Society and he never replied not once.I tried to get an appointment to see him and his secretary refused.She actually threatened me with the Police on the telephone when I asked her why I could not see my msp (he is a Scottish Conservative but the story does not stop there).I approached my list msps (SNP and Liberaldemocrat) and did not even get an answer to I also called them by telephone both times I was told not to contact either again.So I let my former solicitor know he was going to be in the newspapers and on this blog and I received all my papers back illegally withheld from me and a complete cancel of his fees which formed part of the complaint.I am presuming all the politicians are bribed not to do anything to help people like me so it has to be the media to expose a crooked solicitor.
Maybe you should start looking into how many msps actually help their constituents who have problems with solicitors I think the number will be very small!
Anonymous said...
Well are any of you surprised how the msps all shut up when asked for their views? [NOT AT ALL].
I asked my msp to help me with a problem about a complaint to the Law Society [POINTLESS MSP's ARE LAW SOCIETY LACKIES]and he never replied not once. I tried to get an appointment to see him and his secretary refused. [OF COURSE] She actually threatened me with the Police [NO SHOCK THERE]on the telephone when I asked her why I could not see my msp (he is a Scottish Conservative but the story does not stop there). I approached my list msps (SNP and Liberal democrat) and did not even get an answer [ALL BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE LORD PRESIDENTS UNION] to I also called them by telephone both times I was told not to contact either again. [IF THE LAW SOCIETY COULD BE A HITLER MSP's ARE THEIR SS]. So I let my former solicitor know he was going to be in the newspapers and on this blog and I received all my papers back illegally withheld from me and a complete cancel of his fees which formed part of the complaint. [DOI MAKE THEM S**T THEIR PANTS]
I am presuming all the politicians are bribed not to do anything to help people like me so it has to be the media to expose a crooked solicitor. [YES SINISTER ACTORS THE MSP's ARE. THINK OF THEM AS THE LAW SOCIETY].
Maybe you should start looking into how many msps actually help their constituents who have problems with solicitors I think the number will be very small!
All MSP's stand shoulder to shoulder with the Law Society of Scotland. They are Law Society prostitutes who do not give a damn about the majority of the public in Scotland.
They really should all be lawyers such is their loyalty to them. If MSP's all dealt with the Law Society clients would not need to set up internet blogs. MSP's are the Law Society of Scotland.
Anonymous said...
Crown Office under pressure to expose benefit cheating Judge
March 14, 2012 04:46 THEUNHIVEDMIND Leave a Comment
MSP calls on Crown Office to reveal name of benefits cheat judge
Mar 12 2012 By Magnus Gardham
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2012/03/12/msp-calls-on-crown-office-to-reveal-name-of-benefits-cheat-judge-86908-23785375/
THE Crown Office came under fresh pressure yesterday to name a judge who has been convicted of benefit fraud.
SNP MSP John Finnie, a member of Holyrood’s justice committee, added his weight to the demands for the cheating judge to be publicly identified.
It emerged at the weekend that six judges have been convicted of offences since 2005.
Five were found guilty of road traffic offences but one of them admitted fiddling benefits.
It is not known whether the person was a high court judge, a sheriff or a justice of the peace.
Nor is it known how much cash was defrauded.
The Crown Office, who will not even confirm if the judge was male or female, insisted secrecy was “in the public interest”.
But Finnie said yesterday: “The law should treat everyone equally, regardless of who they are and what they do, and this is something that should be looked into.”
The Crown Office often name and shame benefit fraudsters by issuing press releases about them.
Campaigner Peter Cherbi, who uncovered the secrecy, said: “People in front of a judge should know if they have a criminal record.”
so the Crown Office are also in this deal keeping the judges dirty secrets..
9 January 2013 21:24
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Great Gardham Style article by the Daily Record....Respect!
Whoever spurted out the lie, 'in the public interest' to conceal criminal behaviour by these unelected and unaccountable so-called public servants, should be arrested forthwith?
The reason that they do no not want to reveal these judicial criminals is precisely to keep the criminals in their job. Unaffected and above the law?
Their reasoning is this....that their trying to conceal judicial criminality from the Public means that they will not have to do the right thing (obey the law) because by doing so, all of the cases presided over by these judicial criminals would by any normal persons judgement be unsafe (because the judges' judgement is seriously flawed.....i.e. the judges, by their own unlawful actions, do not know the difference between right and wrong) and this would cause unbelievable turmoil within the judicial system bringing it to a halt and where all parties to the process would cease to have any faith in the system?
So, in order for the system to continue as normal (i.e. to maintain the status quo) we have to have criminals as judges, to keep the wheels oiled and to make sure these crooks continue to sneak cash from the Public coffers?
What a corrupt country Scotland is?
Anonymous said...
Well,whatever happens next it will be interesting to read the Lord President's excuses for his colleagues being able to keep their interests hidden from the rest of us.Also what about that benefits cheating judge why has he/she not been named and why are the Crown Office keeping all the details secret?Perhaps the judge has convicted a few people on the Crown Office say so and now the favour is being called in?
More injustice for justice?
10 January 2013 19:18
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Is the reason that quasi political legal Mafiosi Mullholland has body guards because he is worried that someone makes a citizens arrest?
Anonymous said...
If they have nothing to fear then they have nothing to hide so lets be having all your details made public m'luds because this is exactly the same thing you keep telling all of us in court.
10 January 2013 17:25
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Don't you know that Turkeys do not vote for Christmas?
Gobblegobblegobble
Anonymous said...
Good old self regulation comes to the rescue of the judges again - they just cant shake it off from their days as lawyers can they, writing their own rules to suit their lifestyle and make sure they can keep their dirty secrets.
Well for my money this lot may as well all be wearing the Klu Klux Klan pointy hats and burn their victims at a pole because that is exactly what they are doing in the courts always giving the insurance companies etc the favourable (and favours) hearings its that obvious has been going on for years and will continue to be the same until someone gets a grip of this group of little hitlers and its not just me who thinks this - If you ask plenty of people who are the worse, bankers or lawyers or judges I reckon most will answer something like aren't they all about the same!
12 January 2013 14:07
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If you look into every scandal and corruption in Scottish life you will find a crooked Scottish lawyer at the root of it?
Why?
Because they can?
Anonymous said...
http://www.intmensorg.info/crookedlawyer4.htm
As we have been reporting for years Legal aid is the golden goose of the legal mafia. They have been stealing decent men's livelihoods in civil courts to prop up the criminal lawyers making a fortune from defending their serial criminal thug pals
Fourten lawyers reported after being accused of fiddling Legal Aid - but not one prosecution
LEGAL aid bosses have reported 14 lawyers to prosecutors for allegedly fiddling a fortune in taxpayers' cash - but not a single one has been put in the dock. Eleven suspected fraud cases were marked no proceedings, one lawyer was declared insane, one died and the other is still being considered.
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Criminals are doing the regulating. Do you think they will get prosecuted for stealing your cash?
12 January 2013 14:25
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Remember the crooked Scottish lawyers Court, the SSDT (Scottish Solicitors Discipline Tribunal) otherwise known as the Edinburgh Luncheon Club, when considering the sanction to be taken against crooked Scottish lawyers who had been caught steeling money from their clients, found that they had BORROWED THEIR CLIENT'S CASH WITHOUT CONSENT !!!? (Check out page 7 of the SSDT Chairman's Report of 2010 for yourself?)
http://www.ssdt.org.uk/reports/resources/AnnualReport_Final%20Draft.pdf
Nothing other than blatant criminality in plain sight?
Incidentally, you will also note the SSDT's overt criminality over posting their Diary of Hearings in the past-tense, so that ZERO members of the Public can attend these Hearings, where they would quickly see the criminality being perpetrated?
Anonymous said...
Well I think I speak for plenty when I say a "No" to this idea is going to make the judges look even more crooked than they may actually be!
11 January 2013 10:13
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Plenty of crooked Scottish lawyers maybe?
Why not make them undergo psychometric testing to evaluate their fitness of purpose to be a Judge/ Sheriff, which would have the added benefit of identifying all of the pedophiles, thieves and crooks too?
Anonymous said...
Even if they agree the register will be full of lies. Secrecy is their greatest weapon. Their world is a world of deception with a veneer of respectability that is being constantly eroded. Its time to judge the judges.
11 January 2013 23:23
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They are determined for the public to continue to believe the pretence that Scotland is a just place, whilst they stuff £50 notes into their CFM UGG Boots?
Anonymous said...
After the guy announced the judges had been convicted of criminal records you would have thought someone might have expressed an opinion or shock but nothing,not a word.
Kind of sums up the Scottish Parliament in a nutshell - a useless and expensive burden on the entire UK not just Scotland.
14 January 2013 18:19
Good point.
Either these msps are cowards or just not interested because they are already owned by the legal establishment.
Either way something like this has to be a warning what Scotland will be like under independence as in the public not having the right to know about the justice system and probably not having any rights at all.
15 January 2013 21:36
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Believe me, they intend for Scotland to become a Scottish Law Society State - a safe haven for pedophiles and crooks?
Anonymous said...
Well are any of you surprised how the msps all shut up when asked for their views?
I asked my msp to help me with a problem about a complaint to the Law Society and he never replied not once.I tried to get an appointment to see him and his secretary refused.She actually threatened me with the Police on the telephone when I asked her why I could not see my msp (he is a Scottish Conservative but the story does not stop there).I approached my list msps (SNP and Liberaldemocrat) and did not even get an answer to I also called them by telephone both times I was told not to contact either again.So I let my former solicitor know he was going to be in the newspapers and on this blog and I received all my papers back illegally withheld from me and a complete cancel of his fees which formed part of the complaint.I am presuming all the politicians are bribed not to do anything to help people like me so it has to be the media to expose a crooked solicitor.
Maybe you should start looking into how many msps actually help their constituents who have problems with solicitors I think the number will be very small!
16 January 2013 21:15
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There is informed opinion that the Law Society of Scotland hold files on most Scottish MSP's, where they compile any potentially incriminating evidence against them to be used to coerce them into maintaining their partial interests (stealing cash from the Scottish Public Purse and committing criminal offences against their perceived enemies)?
Anonymous said...
Well are any of you surprised how the msps all shut up when asked for their views? (SCARED STIFF - lol)
I asked my msp to help me with a problem about a complaint to the Law Society and he never replied not once.I tried to get an appointment to see him and his secretary refused.She actually threatened me with the Police on the telephone when I asked her why I could not see my msp (he is a Scottish Conservative but the story does not stop there).I approached my list msps (SNP and Liberaldemocrat) and did not even get an answer to I also called them by telephone both times I was told not to contact either again.So I let my former solicitor know he was going to be in the newspapers and on this blog and I received all my papers back illegally withheld from me and a complete cancel of his fees which formed part of the complaint.I am presuming all the politicians are bribed not to do anything to help people like me so it has to be the media to expose a crooked solicitor.
Maybe you should start looking into how many msps actually help their constituents who have problems with solicitors I think the number will be very small!
16 January 2013 21:15
I am utterly astonished that known criminals are pretending to be Judges / Sheriffs?
How can a convicted criminal (someone who has demonstrated by their actions that they do not have the understanding or moral faculty to know the difference between RIGHT & WRONG, where their judgement cannot be relied upon) be allowed to continue to be a Judge / Sheriff, where their very judgement is required to impartially make life-changing decisions against members of the public?
Answer?
It is a CRIMINAL OFFENCE for these convicted criminals to continue to act (pretend) as a Judge/Sheriff and only a totally unmoral and sick society such as Scotland's could allow such a bizarre state of affairs to exist?
God help us get rid of these criminals in our midst?
Maybe you should start looking into how many msps actually help their constituents who have problems with solicitors I think the number will be very small!
Yes 000000000000000000000 this small.
I agree this needs to happen and anyway who let the judges decide they dont need a register of interests?
Anonymous said...
Even if they agree the register will be full of lies. Secrecy is their greatest weapon. Their world is a world of deception with a veneer of respectability that is being constantly eroded. Its time to judge the judges.
11 January 2013 23:23
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News hot off the press!
The Judges & Sheriffs have at long last agreed to a Register of Interests to prove that they are fit to do their jobs and to prove that they are not on the take?
They have just ONE condition?......
That it is to be written with a pen that has invisible ink?
Doh!
Anonymous said...
Prediction on the replies from :
Law Society : No because our members become judges and we dont want them declaring their wealth they earned when they were lawyers and beyond.
Faculty of Advocates : No because our members become judges and we dont want them appearing to be on the fiddle or biased.
Scottish Government : No because we need the judges to rule in our favour when we want to fuck over the Scottish people with unjust laws.
Lord Gill : No because you can trust us we are the judges!
Actually this petition may end up as a great indicator of Scots justice as in completely prejudiced and lacking ANY transparency whatsoever!
8 January 2013 15:29
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An alternative answer might be? :
The Law Society of Scotland: We run Scotland and WE decide what happens and to who and remember that any current or previous Scottish lawyer is above the law?
The Faculty of Advocates: We defer to the Law Society of Scotland and whatever they say goes?
The Scottish Government & Parliament: We have no opinion whatsoever. The Law Society of Scotland dictates policy for us and we are too frightened to oppose them such is their power?
Lord Gill: I tried to effect change in the status quo and was knocked back down into the ground by the Law Society of Scotland for having the temerity to talk out of turn?
Scotland - One of the most corrupt small countries on the planet?
Anonymous said...
After the guy announced the judges had been convicted of criminal records you would have thought someone might have expressed an opinion or shock but nothing,not a word.
Kind of sums up the Scottish Parliament in a nutshell - a useless and expensive burden on the entire UK not just Scotland.
14 January 2013 18:19
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These actors were not perturbed at all about criminals passing themselves off as Judges/ Sheriffs because this is clearly common knowledge amongst them and they know that the Law Society of Scotland forbids them from getting involved in protecting the public from harm?
The overwhelming majority of this committee of MSPs appear to either have been bought and paid for by vested interests, or find themselves lost for words....
Who is choosing the 'chosen ones '?by Peter Markan
If the methods used in anglo ' legal ' system were adopted in other areas of human endeavours we , as humanity , would be still living in the stone age . No search for truth , no discovery process , no logical analysis of facts , no reasoning , no rationality , no sensibility . Instead - lies , pretentions , deceptions , hypocrisy , play acting , faking , falsifying , rigging , doctoring , concocting .
Enormous amount of power is put into hands of some publically unknown , unelected but secretly selected , ' trusted ' people . Who really selects them , who trusts them and WHY ? They are selected to the most exclusive club ( in large extent ' hereditary ' ) in conspiratorial/Mafioso style arrangements and not ' democratic ' . They do not have any qualification , training , competency test or any sort of exams or assessments for the position they are given ! No scrutiny of their characters , no verification of their suitability to play effectively ' top dog ' in the community . BUT they are given absolute dominance in the society ( to both make and invalidate laws , and to control other people`s lives ) - over legislatures , the executive branch , and the people who elected these representatives . They are given ' discretionary powers ' !
For an observer from the outer space they would look like a bunch of hereditary dictators and cruel sadists in the sea of ' democracy ' . The power of judges ( lawyers ) is not compatible with democracy ! ( Most men are blissfully unaware that the biggest risk to their lives are the power of ' judges '. At some point in their life's almost all men face the consequences of courts and laws , devised by freemasons within the legal system , to destroy men who are not part of their creepy satanic cult. )
Anonymous said...
Nice one.The judges must hate your guts for this!
If they do hate they are immature brats.
Anonymous said...
Whatever the difficulties or more like obstructions put in the way of making this happen I believe it has to happen and the judges must be made as accountable as the rest of us have to be.
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I agree, but the judges will only be made accountable by spreading the word. This is why the the Society and MSP collaborators dom8nate.
Anonymous said...
Have to say I find the MSPs asking for the views of the judges on whether they should have a register of interests yet not asking for members of the public to give their views is A BIT UNDEMOCRATIC surely?
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MSP's think of them as members of the Law Society. They fully support this legal dictatorship.
Anonymous said...
The Judicial Office for Scotland: “We do not hold a register of hospitality for members of the judiciary and there are no plans to do so.”
Judicial arrogance at its most extreme.Clearly we need this register of interests like yesterday.
10 January 2013 20:22
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Whoever is responsible for this disgusting statement should be exposed, so that they can be vilified & then sacked?
We do not need anti Public deviants in positions of trust in Public Pay?
Anonymous said...
I saw that rather snooty rebuff by the Supreme Court justices over the idea of a register of interests however what they are forgetting is before they had the Supreme Court this was handled in the House of Lords were all members have to submit a register of interests http://www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/standards-and-interests/register-of-lords-interests
So, all in all a very good idea from New Zealand to extend this idea to our judiciary and very happy to see someone like Mr Cherbi able to raise it in the terms he has.Good luck all.
10 January 2013 18:14
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What it shows is that our judiciary are not to be trusted?
I would dock their pay by £100,000 so that they can be still massively over paid and over here?
Anonymous said...
Waste of time really and its obvious they have it in for you at Holyrood.
9 January 2013 18:34
Must disagree as this is certainly not a waste of time now people are actually talking about it.Now if only the rest of the press would take up the issue then we might get somewhere.After all in who's interests is it that judges are allowed to get away with not declaring their financial/other interests?
9 January 2013 21:40
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This is such a just and righteous endeavour by those guys and gals at the DOI.........
As it just goes to show that SCOTLAND DOES NOT HAVE A FREE PRESS!
Anonymous said...
NOT A WASTE OF TIME THIS HAS TO COME OUT IMAGINE HOW PEOPLE FEEL IN FRONT OF A JUDGE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE IS IMPARTIAL YET IT TURNS OUT THE JUDGE IS AS RICH AS ALL THE LAWYERS AND ON THEIR SIDE NOT ON THE PUBLIC SIDE WHO PAYS FOR ALL THEIR JOLLIES
10 January 2013 11:31
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The fact that the Judiciary's own criminals were kept in a job and kept secret from the Scottish Public suits these crooks down-to-the-ground, as they detest the people they are supposed to serve?
They obviously have no problem having criminals deciding the fate of the Scottish Public?
It is inconceivable that all of these Judges & Sheriffs know all about the criminals in their midst but they have been too happy to do nothing about it, in case their speaking out for Justice harmed their own desire for enrichment at the Scottish Public's expense?
I would sack every single one of them for contributory negligence and misfeance in Public Office and replace them with people who are fit to practise as a Judge/Sheriff?
www.intmensorg.info
'First the Law Society of England and Wales shuts down the Solicitors from Hell website. They claim that exposing lawyers crooked ways are a form of harassment and the judges (no juries) agreed. No coincidence the judges happen to be members of the Law Society of England and Wales with a major conflict of interest.
Another site opened up Solicitors from Hell 2 hoping to continue the job the Solicitors from Hell website was doing but this time located in America and outside the Law Societies jurisdiction. However it also has been closed down with no reason why the information it published can no longer be accessed.
A third site opened up Cowboy solicitors and it has also closed down without any reason given. We ourselves have been subject to attack over many years and have had to use at least 20 or more web hoster's to continue to [expose the threat lawyers pose to men across the globe] caught up in their dodgy legal scams.
Sinister the degree to which they control the complicit compliant media [OH YES] and who seem determined to shut down the TRUTH about their scams now being exposed across the internet by their victims, or those victims that survived the destructive forces that continue behind closed secretive courtrooms".
THEY WILL DESTROY YOU LIVES FOR ££££££££££££ AND WHEN YOU COMPLAIN COVER THEIR CRIMES UP. A RADICALLY EVIL GROUP, AVOID THEM AT ALL COSTS PEOPLE. THEY ARE ANTI-JUSTICE AND WANT US SILENCED.
10 January 2013 18:41
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They see us all as their CASH TREES, that they can prune-off £50 notes as and when they see fit?
Well done the DOI Team.
It's good to know that there are some good guys left in Scotland?
Anonymous said...
Have to say I find the MSPs asking for the views of the judges on whether they should have a register of interests yet not asking for members of the public to give their views is A BIT UNDEMOCRATIC surely?
11 January 2013 19:00
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These loons were effectively saying OK guys lets kick this Petition into the long grass by referring it back to the vested parties interest?
When the pig is in a queue going to slaughter you don't give it the option of whether it wants to be made into sausages or if it wants to roll in its own shit for the rest of his days.........
What utter pig swirl!
Anonymous said...
I have heard lawyers talking about judges and which ones they prefer to be in front of because they know the judge is involved with another law firm or has a bias or something like that so this information is not so far away if the lawyers know about it to that extent.
The sooner its all made public and in a register for us all to see the better.
11 January 2013 17:52
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The difficulty is that the problem seems to be too massive to do anything about it?
Lord Gill certainly got his wings clipped from his brethren when he tried to suggest even the most modest improvements?
The massive corruption seems to be endemic, whereby the very core of our Society has been attacked and undermined all for the enrichment of a few who care nothing for the Law, the Scottish People and the Country and they only care about keeping their monetary and insalubrious excesses a secret?
Anonymous said...
http://www.intmensorg.info/crookedlawyer4.htm
As we have been reporting for years Legal aid is the golden goose of the legal mafia. They have been stealing decent men's livelihoods in civil courts to prop up the criminal lawyers making a fortune from defending their serial criminal thug pals
Fourten lawyers reported after being accused of fiddling Legal Aid - but not one prosecution
LEGAL aid bosses have reported 14 lawyers to prosecutors for allegedly fiddling a fortune in taxpayers' cash - but not a single one has been put in the dock. Eleven suspected fraud cases were marked no proceedings, one lawyer was declared insane, one died and the other is still being considered.
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Criminals are doing the regulating. Do you think they will get prosecuted for stealing your cash?
12 January 2013 14:25
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The Lord Advocate is personally and ultimately responsible for this perversion of Justice?
He should be sacked immediately and replaced with someone who knows the difference between right and wrong?
After all they are all the same with the Chairman of the SSDT referring in his SSDT Report of 2010 to Scottish Lawyers who had stolen their clients cash as being guilty not of theft and sent to jail but that they had BORROWED WITHOUT CONSENT (yes folks this is true - read it for yourself here on page 7 of his Report http://www.ssdt.org.uk/reports/resources/AnnualReport_Final%20Draft.pdf)
Anonymous said...
WOW! Just came across this story after reading about it elsewhere
I'm surprised they didn't make Jimmy Savile a Scottish judge as he seems to have all the right qualifications for it and the hairdo!
12 January 2013 12:30
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I don't know about JS being a Scottish Judge but he certainly was a Fixer and it would be of no surprise if many of them had JS's number on speed dial?
Anonymous said...
After the guy announced the judges had been convicted of criminal records you would have thought someone might have expressed an opinion or shock but nothing,not a word.
Kind of sums up the Scottish Parliament in a nutshell - a useless and expensive burden on the entire UK not just Scotland.
14 January 2013 18:19
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The whole thing is a facade. A remarkable construct to fool the People into believing that they are part of a democracy, when the truth is that Scotland is run by vested interests for deviants and pedophile enablers?
Anonymous said...
Whatever the difficulties or more like obstructions put in the way of making this happen I believe it has to happen and the judges must be made as accountable as the rest of us have to be.
14 January 2013 13:05
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Poor naive kitten!
Anonymous said...
Well are any of you surprised how the msps all shut up when asked for their views?
I asked my msp to help me with a problem about a complaint to the Law Society and he never replied not once.I tried to get an appointment to see him and his secretary refused.She actually threatened me with the Police on the telephone when I asked her why I could not see my msp (he is a Scottish Conservative but the story does not stop there).I approached my list msps (SNP and Liberaldemocrat) and did not even get an answer to I also called them by telephone both times I was told not to contact either again.So I let my former solicitor know he was going to be in the newspapers and on this blog and I received all my papers back illegally withheld from me and a complete cancel of his fees which formed part of the complaint.I am presuming all the politicians are bribed not to do anything to help people like me so it has to be the media to expose a crooked solicitor.
Maybe you should start looking into how many msps actually help their constituents who have problems with solicitors I think the number will be very small!
16 January 2013 21:15
Wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
LAW SOCIETY PROTOCOL
If any of your constituents write to you complaining about a Scottish lawyer report this to us as quickly as possible and we will tell you how to deal with it?
Some standard tricks are to not to respond to them at all, even if they have asked for your response.....then when the make contact again, simply deny receiving their initial letter, email or phone call....continually say that you will offer help but you never do, this will frustrate and exacerbate them so much that they will become distressed, then you can say that you are discontinuing dealing with their concerns under a bogus unacceptable behaviour policy, making them give-up and hopefully kill themselves off.....Problem solved?
What has happened to Scotland?
I used to think Scotland was a just country which had a sound system based on the rule of Law?
HOW WRONG I WAS?
MSPs ask legal profession, Scottish Govt. for views on a Petition PE1458 : Register of Interests for Judges Petition
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Those around the table have made their decision already.
So the MSP's want to ask Advocates, Judges and Law Society this. Do you want to shit in your nests? These MSP's hate us not the judiciary.
There once was a woman from Barry
Who just one time took it up the Gary...
Then nine months later
Imagine her horror?
When out popped a Scottish lawyer.....
So that's where they come from?
Is Scotland the only country in the World that has criminals pretending to be Judges/Sheriffs?
Is Scotland the only country in the World where it's Press is so muzzled that they are unable to draw the Public's attention to one of the most institutionalised criminal frauds within the Judiciary ever known?
What a laughing stock we must be with other countries?
Scottish Judges have sought to deceive the Scottish People about convicted offenders amongst their number who have been unlawfully presiding over cases before them?
What else is in their dirty laundry cupboard that they are so desperate to conceal?
Now that the police know that Judges/ Sheriffs have been passing themselves off as fit for purpose when they so clearly are not (due to their lack of good judgement) why don't they arrest them?
Is it because the Crown Office & Procurators Fiscals are preventing the police from carrying out their duties by ridding Scotland of these sneaky hiding offenders?
If so, the police should be arresting the Scottish lawyers responsible at the Crown Office & Procurators Fiscal and jailing them for treason?
These Judges knew that they were subverting the course of Justice by continuing to practise as a Judge after their ability to have reliable judgment was found to CEASE TO EXIST?
All for the pursuit of the Queens Pounds?
Well done the whole DOI Team.
Once again truly brilliant journalism.
B. Connelly
Good work.Cant wait to read what excuses the judges lawyers & govt put up to stop this becoming law!
Lord President Lord Brian Gill is full of s**t. He won't change this profitable system. Four years since his review, he has no intention of giving rights to party litigants.
Anonymous said...
Who is choosing the 'chosen ones '?by Peter Markan
If the methods used in anglo ' legal ' system were adopted in other areas of human endeavours we , as humanity , would be still living in the stone age . No search for truth , no discovery process , no logical analysis of facts , no reasoning , no rationality , no sensibility . Instead - lies , pretentions , deceptions , hypocrisy , play acting , faking , falsifying , rigging , doctoring , concocting .
Enormous amount of power is put into hands of some publically unknown , unelected but secretly selected , ' trusted ' people . Who really selects them , who trusts them and WHY ? They are selected to the most exclusive club ( in large extent ' hereditary ' ) in conspiratorial/Mafioso style arrangements and not ' democratic ' . They do not have any qualification , training , competency test or any sort of exams or assessments for the position they are given ! No scrutiny of their characters , no verification of their suitability to play effectively ' top dog ' in the community . BUT they are given absolute dominance in the society ( to both make and invalidate laws , and to control other people`s lives ) - over legislatures , the executive branch , and the people who elected these representatives . They are given ' discretionary powers ' !
For an observer from the outer space they would look like a bunch of hereditary dictators and cruel sadists in the sea of ' democracy ' . The power of judges ( lawyers ) is not compatible with democracy ! ( Most men are blissfully unaware that the biggest risk to their lives are the power of ' judges '. At some point in their life's almost all men face the consequences of courts and laws , devised by freemasons within the legal system , to destroy men who are not part of their creepy satanic cult.
20 January 2013 14:32
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You have hit the nail on the head.
The Scottish judiciary has no longer got any confidence of the Scottish Public?
It is utterly broken and corrupt with no chance of improvement due to the acters in position jeleously and desperately clinging onto power?
It is now time to start again and rid Scotland of these criminal deceivers and get trustworthy dedicated public servants into place who sincerely believe in the Rule of Law?
Why do we have to put up with deviants at the very heart of Scottish Society?
Day by day Scotland is being relentlessly pulled down by these Scottish legal parasites?
I find it upsetting and depressing to think that these dozen or so MSP's are getting paid a salary at all?
They should be absolutely apoplectic with rage over this issue and should be demanding Kenny MacAskill, the Lord Advocate & the Lord President to appear before them immediately to give explanations as to how the very heart of our society can be so secretively usurped and disgraced by crooks?
These MSP's are totally incompetent?
They either were aware all along that our Justice System was been usurped for years or that they are too scared to cross the Law Society of Scotland's edicts?
Instead, they seek the view and advice of the Scottish Government (which is clearly an indication that The Lord Advocate & Kenny MacAskill will have to write to the J2 Committee on the legality of convicted criminals passing themselves off as Judges) and to a report from Lord Gill The Lord President regarding whether there are arrangements in place for the release of this kind of information (into the Public domain)?
Not that the information itself points to serious criminal behaviour at the very core of Scotland?
Further, they wish to write to the Faculty of Advocates and the Law Society of Scotland for their views?
Well if the Law Society of Scotland et al had any sense of abiding by the law (which by their actions they don't) then they would have already reported these crooks to the Police a long time ago?
No. They have very conveniently stayed silent?
Is this why the Scottish Government have rushed in the double jeopardy rule, whereby a charged person can be prosecuted twice for the same crime, if the first prosecution fails (i.e. the Defence Advocate uses the ultimate sanction to get his client off by whispering to the Judge that he is going to claim the prosecution against his client as ultra varies because the judge - being a convicted person - has shown that they no longer have a reliable judgement?)
Thereby, they can quickly annul the first case and wheel in a different judge to prosecute the person again?
That they would rather go to these extraordinary lengths of bringing in double jeopardy rather than following the rule-of-law and sacking the convicted judges for being unfit to be able to carry out the duties and responsibilities of a lawful judge?
This whole example brought to the Scottish Public's attention by the DOI team shows just how rotten and corrupt Scotland has become?
"All persons shall be equal before the courts and tribunals.
In the determination of any criminal charge against him, or of his rights and obligations in a suit at law, everyone shall be entitled to a fair and public hearing by a competent, independent and impartial tribunal established by law."
Article 6 of ECHR
Thus, the Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill, The Lord Advocate Mullholland, The Lord President Lord Gill, the Law Society of Scotland and all Scottish Judges have colluded to ensure that the People of Scotland are having their human rights compromised in order that criminals can continue to wield their power and continue to bleed the country dry of cash as well as perverting the very course of justice?
How arrogant they are to think that they can say, 'it is not in their (The Scottish People) Public's Interest to know what we are getting up to', so as long as we keep these suckers ignorant of the truth then we can continue as normal and fill our boots.
To hell with the law.......WE are the LAW and WE will decide what laws we want to adhere to?
What happened to honest Public Servants?
How long ago did Scotland have one left?
Surely the most corrupt small country in the World?
Bent Hamilton lawyer working as hypnotherapist
Jan 24 2013 by John Rowbotham, Hamilton Advertiser
A bent lawyer is behind the firm offering hypnotherapy sessions to pupils at a Hamilton secondary school.
Tony Murphy, who was struck off for taking from clients’ accounts money to which he was not entitled, is running the Lanarkshire Hypnotherapy Clinic from a building in Barncluith.
Earlier this month, the Advertiser told how signs were posted outside Hamilton Grammar and in the vicinity of the University of the West of Scotland offering hypnotherapy as a cure for exam stress.
Parents were told that the sessions would give their children “an extra edge”.
However, South Lanarkshire Council said there were other established ways to deal with exam stress.
The Advertiser phoned the number on the sign but there was no reply.
However, parents of children at the Grammar say the advertiser was Mr Murphy who previously had a legal business in Hamilton and in November 2011 was found guilty of professional misconduct by the Scottish Solicitors’ Disciplinary Tribunal.
He took deposits from property buyers then acted in the sale of the development to another company.
Only part of the deposits were returned.
He was also found to have failed to account to the liquidators of two companies and to have falsely represented to Law Society officials that his accounts had been destroyed in a flood.
Now, after watching clients’ cash disappear he is now offering to make people’s anxieties vanish by offering hypnotherapy services and neuro-linguistic programming.
Neurolinguistic programming is a controversial therapy with little scientific evidence to back its effectiveness.
He works from a `clinic’ in a former utilities building at the corner of Carlisle Road and Old Avon Road.
The clinic’s website states that it is run by “Tony Murphy `D.Hyp (MIAPH), LLB, Dip LP’, a professional hypnotherapist registered with the International Association of Pure Hypnoanalysts.
He claims to practise `pure hypnoanalysis - the single most effective form of hypnotherapy available’ – and `suggestion therapy’
According to the site, Mr Murphy can help with problems such as smoking, fears and phobias.
He charges £65 for `children’s problems’ and £199 for a full course of weight loss sessions.
There was this week no sign of Mr Murphy at his luxury home in Barncluith nor at the clinic. He also failed to return telephone calls requesting information about the signs and his new career as a hypnotherapist.
A parent of a pupil at Hamilton Grammar said: “I was glad, following the Advertiser story, when the sign outside the Grammar was taken down - particularly when I discovered who was promoting it.
“There’s one of his signs still up in Muir Street, Hamilton, and that should be taken down as well.”
Another parent added: “There is something not quite right offering to hypnotise kids to get them through exams.”
South Lanarkshire Council say hypnotherapy was not something they would actively promote for use to relieve exam stress.
Who monitors the Lord President and the rest of them, they do. Law Society staff are in the SLCC, and Parliament. In the latter they are called MSP's. They have achieved domination by bureaucracy and covered it up as democracy. Legal equality is a myth, this blog proves this fact.
Scottish Parliament seek views on [KILLING OFF] Public Petition calling for a Register of Interests of Scotland’s wealthy Judges & Sheriffs. [CRIMINALS LOOKING AFTER CRIMINALS].
I can hear them now. How dare this Cherbi fucker question us. They are criminals Peter we know that. Out and out criminals.
Simply this- These judges have too much to hide,otherwise this register would exist already.
Bravo for bringing it up and looking forward to see how the judges put themselves above the rest of us.
Anonymous said...
Prediction on the replies from :
Law Society : No because our members become judges and we dont want them declaring their wealth they earned when they were lawyers and beyond.
Faculty of Advocates : No because our members become judges and we dont want them appearing to be on the fiddle or biased.
Scottish Government : No because we need the judges to rule in our favour when we want to fuck over the Scottish people with unjust laws.
Lord Gill : No because you can trust us we are the judges!
Actually this petition may end up as a great indicator of Scots justice as in completely prejudiced and lacking ANY transparency whatsoever!
8 January 2013 15:29
You have a knack of foretelling the future! I like this.
If you ever get a knighthood you will be dubbed Sir Castic.
If one really wishes to know how justice is administered in a country, one does not question the policemen, the lawyers, the judges, or the protected members of the middle class. One goes to the unprotected--those, precisely, who need the laws's protection most!--and listens to their testimony.
James Baldwin
The question arises ... whether all lawyers are the same. This is like asking whether everything that gets into a sewer is garbage.
Florynce R. Kennedy
Scotland's people have zero protection against their internal enemies.
How can criminals decide the punishment of other criminals?
Has the World gone crazy or is it just Scotland?
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