Friday, November 30, 2012

THEY WANT YOUR CASH : Scotland has highest legal aid budget in EU, yet lawyers chant “save justice” and strike to demand more for them, less for you

STRIKE ! More money for them, but Clients see little access to justice for legal aid hand-outs. LET’S not kid ourselves about the motives for recent strikes & protests by the Scottish legal profession against plans to cut Scotland’s ONE HUNDRED & SIXTY MILLION POUND legal aid budget, the highest legal aid budget in the entire European Union. This strike, and the protests outside the Scottish Parliament by cohorts of Scots lawyers carrying banners crying for “justice” is purely about more money for solicitors & law firms and has little to do with the profession’s call access to justice for Scots who may, rightly, or even wrongly,  find themselves at the sharp end of the justice system for deeds they may or may not have committed.

The strike certainly has nothing to do with Scots access to justice for civil legal aid, because in a week of listening to solicitors bleat like sheep about the rights of accused criminals to be funded on the legal aid purse, (and for those same solicitors to be entitled to collect more than £500 per hour), not one member of the legal profession has come forward to argue for increased attention to civil legal aid, particularly in cases where the legal profession’s own regulators have done the dirty on members of the public.

Yes, it’s all about easy pickings for the legal profession, rather than helping Scots out of complicated legal difficulties created not by their own doing, rather their reliance on the professions who claim to have their clients best interests at heart …

The fuss, as great as it appears to be, is all about our Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill’s idea to force solicitors to collect legal aid contributions from clients accused of criminal offences.

Solicitors argue they should not become the Scottish Legal Aid Board’s debt collectors, while the Justice Secretary argues it is not cost effective for SLAB to collect these same contributions from clients (yet it appears to be cost effective for SLAB’s senior staff to fly around on international airlines apparently learning nothing about how legal aid is done in the rest of the world)

Perhaps what is really at stake is some of the nasty habits solicitors and certain advocates have developed, such as in some cases, well known to journalists & the Scottish Legal Aid Board where some of Scotland’s supposedly esteemed legal professionals regularly ask their clients for cash bungs to continue to defend them on criminal charges. Clearly, clients may end up asking why they have to make a cash contribution to SLAB as well as their solicitor if justice is really being served …

Of course, with the headlines of legal aid fraud, and solicitors walking away with millions of pounds of legal aid money even after being accused by SLAB of making dodgy claims, it would be reasonable for anyone to ask “Is MacAskill’s plan for lawyers to collect our money safe ?” Well, put it this way, his plan is about as safe as allowing gangsters & loan sharks to collect for the Red Cross.

Predictably, several strikes & protests on, Mr MacAskill is being forced back to the negotiating table with the legal profession and, as has happened before in previous cases where solicitors have threatened to strike such as in 2008 he will give in and the legal profession will continue to enjoy its £160 Million state subsidy for the time being. Times are tough, the legal profession must survive, axe nurses first, but don't axe your lawyers they say …. yet the important questions, such as whether an independent Scotland can afford its legal aid budget, and why legal aid fraudsters in the legal profession are never prosecuted … are never answered …

Time for a new Justice Secretary, anyone ? Surely after five years of disasters in the justice system, from World’s End to the continuing Lockerbie cover up to the review of the review of the review of Lord Gill’s condemnation of the Scottish Justice system in his 2009 Civil Courts Review and recent allegations of “Institutional Corruption” at Scotland’s Crown Office is well enough to require a new, firm pair of hands on the broken bottle that is our Scottish justice system ?

WHERE DOES ALL THE LEGAL AID GO ?

Scots Legal Aid ‘a £161Million public subsidy for legal profession’ as EU report reveals judges salaries & lawyers legal aid claims come before public's access to justice

Scottish justice in the Dock - Sunday Mail 30 September 2012EU report reveals Scots justice is more about lawyers & judges making money than delivering justice. A REPORT published by the European Commission for the Efficiency of Justice and featured in an article in Scotland’s Sunday Mail newspaper has revealed Scottish lawyers take tens of millions of pounds more in publicly funded legal aid representing the Scots population of just over five million people than lawyers working Italy, which has a population of sixty million, twelve times greater than that of Scotland.

The figures show that Scots lawyers ‘earned’ around ONE HUNDRED & SIXTY MILLION POUNDS of legal aid in 2010 while their Italian counterparts working for a much larger client base only took £100million, making the Scots legal aid bill, running at a cost of £31 a head, the most expensive in Europe in terms of population. The grim figures show that Scots legal aid is working out at a cost of £31 a head, with little in the way of access to justice to show for it.

The report, available on the EU website HERE (pdf) or online here : The European Commission for the Efficiency of Justice Report on Evaluation of European Judicial Systems also reveals Scots judges are paid the highest in Europe with Scottish Sheriffs taking home an average taxpayer funded salary of a staggering £120,000, while others on Scotland’s judicial benches take up to £200,000 a year plus expenses.

The Sunday Mail article reported on the EU study which exposed Scotland’s justice system as the costliest in the entire European Union :

Scottish justice in the Dock - Sunday Mail 30 September 2012SCOTTISH JUSTICE IN THE DOCK : Scotland's lawyers earn more from Legal Aid than whole of Italy, shock report reveals

By Russell Findlay Sunday Mail 30 September 2012

THE European Commission report reveals that Legal Aid in Scotland cost 203million euros (£161million) in 2010 - more than in Italy, which has a population of 61million.

SCOTS lawyers collected more taxpayers’ cash for Legal Aid than their counterparts in Italy – a country 12 times the size.

A European Commission report reveals that Legal Aid in Scotland cost 203million euros (£161million) in 2010 – around 39 euros, or £31, for every one of our 5.2million people.

Lawyers in Italy, which has a population of 61million, got just £100million of public cash – £1.50 per person.

The 450-page Brussels report also found that Denmark, with 5.6million people, paid its lawyers only 88million euros (£70million).

And in Belgium – population 10.9million – legal aid cost 75million euros (£59million).

The revelations, in a 450-page report by the European Commission for the Efficiency of Justice – came as the Scottish Legal Aid Board banned three lawyers from claiming cash for criminal cases.

We can reveal that Gerard Tierney, Massimo D’Alvito and Andrew Brophy, of Blantyre, Lanarkshire, breached the board’s code of practice. Tierney and D’Alvito have been reported to the Crown Office, who will decide whether to prosecute.

The ban also extends to Tierney’s firm G Tierney & Co, of Auchinleck, Ayrshire, who have raked in £610,500 in Legal Aid over three years, and Edinburgh firm Massimo D’Alvito Defence Lawyers.

The European report looked at 47 criminal justice systems across the continent.

It found the cost per person of Legal Aid in Scotland was third-highest – behind only Northern Ireland and England and Wales. The cost per person was 53.5 euros in Northern Ireland and 45.7 euros in England and Wales.

The findings led to calls for a radical overhaul of Legal Aid.

Central Ayrshire Labour MP Brian Donohoe said: “It seems major organised criminals and terror suspects qualify for unlimited Legal Aid, yet I have constituents who don’t get a penny simply because they have a few thousand pounds of savings.

“The system in Scotland and the rest of the UK is out of control.”

Legal blogger Peter Cherbi added: “Legal Aid is no longer about access to justice for the poor, but a state subsidy for the legal profession – and one they don’t seem keen on talking about.”

The Sunday Mail has exposed a series of rogue lawyers banned from claiming Legal Aid. But none of the 14 reported to prosecutors was put in the dock, prompting claims that Scotland’s legal self-regulation system protects lawyers.

Kilmarnock solicitor Niels Lockhart, who took £600,000 in Legal Aid in just two years, was found to have made “unnecessary and excessive” claims. The Legal Aid board withdrew their complaint to the Law Society after he agreed to stop claiming.

Reacting to the Brussels report, the Scottish Legal Aid Board said: “Across Europe, there are substantial differences between judicial systems and very different approaches to the provision of legal aid and its cost.

“The Scottish system is highly regarded internationally for the efforts made to ensure access to justice.

“The Scottish Government’s budget allocation for the Legal Aid Fund has reduced significantly in 2011-12 and is planned to reduce further in future years.”

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill hopes to cut the Legal Aid bill by making criminals pay some of their costs. The planned move, outlined in a Holyrood Bill, could save taxpayers around £3.9million.

• The Euro study showed that Scotland disciplined a tiny number of lawyers compared to countries of similar size.

Just three were struck off and 13 reprimanded in Scotland in 2010.

Denmark, with a similar population, took action against 309 lawyers, with six struck off and 145 fined. And in Finland, also close in size, 99 rogue solicitors were sanctioned.

Critics blame the Law Society of Scotland’s dual role of representing lawyers while also acting as regulator.

• A large proportion of alleged criminals reported to prosecutors in Scotland are not being put in the dock.

Of 265,830 cases sent to the Crown Office, only 41.7 per cent were brought to court. In England and Wales, 90.6 per cent of all cases resulted in court action.

The difference is thought to be partly due to Scotland’s recent introduction of spot fines and fiscal fines for what the authorities insist are more minor offences.

Critics claim such fines lead to a secret justice system.

• The report reveals that Scotland’s sheriffs top the European pay league.

Researchers compared the wages of lower court judges across Europe.

Our sheriffs, with an average salary of 150,106 euros (£120,000), were number one, ahead of the Irish and Swiss.

Next were sheriffs’ counterparts in England and Wales, who were paid 120,998 euros (£95,000).

Not only were sheriffs the highest-paid, they also topped the table comparing their earnings to the national average. They earned 5.2 times the average Scot’s wage.

170 comments:

Anonymous said...

0h yes these scum will fight for themselves but they wont fight for us.

Legal Aid money does not mean access to justice. Cuts in Legal Aid means fewer holidays, houses, expensive cars. You are kidding no one LLB Scumbags.

Anonymous said...

£500 per hour ROBBERY.

Anonymous said...

This strike, and the protests outside the Scottish Parliament by cohorts of Scots lawyers carrying banners crying for “justice” is purely about more money for solicitors & law firms and has little to do with the profession’s call access to justice for Scots who may, rightly, or even wrongly, find themselves at the sharp end of the justice system for deeds they may or may not have committed.
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Yes they are money grabbing scum bags, their posters about justice pure bullshit. It is about unlimited access to the public Money pot, that is what they want.
That is their idea of justice.

If the 14 were charged with Legal Aid fraud some of these scum bags would have defended them.

Anonymous said...

Like Oliver Twist they want more, but they are not poor now. They don't give a shirt about civil or non civil clients. Money grabbing filth.

Anonymous said...

Haha would any of you consider handing over a contribution to Mr Lockhart?I wouldn't!

Anonymous said...

“Legal Aid is no longer about access to justice for the poor, but a state subsidy for the legal profession – and one they don’t seem keen on talking about.”

Oh yes Peter, money is all they care about. Let the axe fall on the legal profession [NOT NURSES] who do not suffer irrespective of the outcome for their clients.

Anonymous said...

I thought Lorna Cackle always said the profession were rolling in it so how come they are out standing in the rain begging for more?
Self centred self preserving selfish scum the lot of them.

Anonymous said...

The Orwellian double-speak of the legal profession these past few weeks has been incredible. #accessforjustice indeed! They wallow in a £150m+ state subsidy and do not want to talk about a real, cost-effective means of access for justice as used in virtually every other country - public defenders! What is perhaps more remarkable is that the media - cowed by Leveson - has allowed the terms of the debate to be dictated by the lawyers. As far as I can see, the Herald, Times, BBC, Scotsman et al have collectively ignored the reality - Scotland's legal aid bill is among the highest in Europe.

Anonymous said...

Perhaps what is really at stake is some of the nasty habits solicitors and certain advocates have developed, such as in some cases, well known to journalists & the Scottish Legal Aid Board where some of Scotland’s supposedly esteemed legal professionals regularly ask their clients for cash bungs to continue to defend them on criminal charges.

I've heard of this happening a few times so I know you are on the right track!

Anonymous said...

Yes absolutely agree with you MacAskill is crap at justice no wonder Scotland is a laughing stock with him and all these idiots wandering around with banners demanding more money while everything else gets cut to shreds

Anonymous said...

GIVE ME SOME MORE MONEY ON THE PUBLIC PURSE WHAT A BUNCH OF UNDESERVING SCROUNGERS!

Anonymous said...

Legal blogger Peter Cherbi added: “Legal Aid is no longer about access to justice for the poor, but a state subsidy for the legal profession – and one they don’t seem keen on talking about.”

TOTALLY AGREE!!

Anonymous said...

Well all I can say is thank goodness someone has the guts to speak up against these thug lawyers who are jamming up the courts with their tricks to earn more for their own pockets

Anonymous said...

They seem to be making a lot of fuss just because someone asked them to collect legal aid fees.. you must be right then - they are stealing from clients anyway and will now be caught out when the clients are asked for even more cash..robbers!

Anonymous said...

"save justice" from a lawyer translates in English to "save our profits"

also you couldnt have put it better when you said allowing lawyers to collect legal aid is like allowing loan sharks to collect for the red cross!

Anonymous said...

As far as I can see, the Herald, Times, BBC, Scotsman et al have collectively ignored the reality - Scotland's legal aid bill is among the highest in Europe.
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I got rid of my television because the BBC are in the lawyers camp. And 95% of what they transmit is tripe anyway. I agree with all comments here about the criminals who claim to stand for justice when what they really want is an unlimited no questions asked access to our public ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££
Your average lawyer would nail clients to a cross for money, they are simply the utter dregs of humanity and where possible avoid dealing with them at all costs.

Anonymous said...

A nice photo of some of Scotland's Legal Aid poachers who purport to be concerned for the welfare of clients dealing with civil or criminal law. And their Law Society and Crown office poachers are fooling no one.

The public are catching on that these people are parasites robbing the public money box for poor service, corruption and draconian protection for the countries Legalized thieves.

Yes Legal Aid theft is Legalized theft if you are a lawyer. The Crown office and Law Society are their exemption offices to bypass prison.

Anonymous said...

http://scottishlaw.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/a-bigger-racket-than-legal-aid-as-msp.html
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This is the lawyer's idea of justice and proves they grind people to psychological despair and legal hell for money.

They are a sinister evil calculating dangerous minority. My advice save your own sanity, trust none of them.

Anonymous said...

“Save justice” These bastards apply principles of justice only to themselves. They only ever act to save their colleagues and bank balances. Utter scum, that is my opinion on this mendacious greedy group.

Anonymous said...

The FACTS:-

A yearly Slush-Legal Aid-Fund of in excess of £160 Millions is being sucked from the Public by Scottish crooked lawyers?

This must mean that hundreds of thousands of Scots with no money are every single week being defended in court?

OR

That the crooked Scottish lawyers are double and triple billing to SLAB & that the SLAB are aware of the fraud being perpetrated (therefore they are wilfull accomplices to crime) but are being bullied by the Law Society of Scotland (whose members work for SLAB remember) to keep their mouth shut, so as to keep the gravy slick flowing from the hard pressed Scottish Public straight into the crooked Scottish lawyers already fat wallets.

Indeed, if you listen to the totally corrupt Scottish Crown Office & Law Society of Scotland, then to account for the massive MILLIONS OF POUNDS (being stolen) that there is an unprecedented massive crime wave surge being perpetrated throughout all of Scotland by a bunch of disabled criminals (i.e. are entitled to Legal Aid)

Anonymous said...

Axe nurses first? and this scum want £500 an hour from the taxpayer?
I know what I'd like to say to this but you probably wont publish my comment anyway we are too soft on these scum lawyers its about time their numbers are cut like the rest of society

Anonymous said...

The Justice System in Scotland is a sick joke and these shame faced Scottish crooked lawyers who are unbelievably on strike is rubbing salt into Scotland's open wounds that the crooked Scottish lawyers created themselves?

How is it possible for Scottish Judges to be paid far more than English Judges and over 5 X the average salary in Scotland and that our crooked Scottish lawyers are paid £161 Million a year for criminal legal aid?

This Free Money for these crooked lawyers equates to every working adult in Scotland paying over £50 a year to help to fund these crook's lavish luxury lifestyle?

YOU WOULD THINK THAT THIS OUTRAGEOUS SUM OF MONEY IS MASSIVELY EXCESSIVE.....................BUT THESE CROOKS THINK IT IS NOT ENOUGH.........AND THEY WANT MORE MONEY?

How about before a single penny more is spent on EXCESSES FOR CROOKED SCOTTISH LAWYERS that the Government completely disband the Crown Office for failing to prosecute their own and to pay the Scottish lawyers half of what they are getting paid at the moment?

Especially when the standard of Scottish lawyers is in irrefutable and continuing decline, where the Law Society of Scotland, with their other arms, the SSDT & the SLCC are focused solely on the lightest possible sanction against their members, all of which has over the years led to a lack of deterrent and lack of discipline resulting in an erosion of standards amongst them?

YET THEY HAVE THE CHEEK TO DEMAND EVEN MORE MONEY........?

The Government, knowing that the crooked Scottish lawyers have been committing fraud against the SLAB Fund, with the abetting of SLAB lawyers themselves and the Law Society of Scotland then there should be set fees on the following suggested table of fees:-

Maximum pro rata hourly rate for Scottish lawyers claiming Legal Aid:-

Labour rate a max of £20 per hour
Telephone calls made to or on behalf of client £0.50 each
Letters posted sent to or on behalf of client £6 inclusive of postage

Letters emailed sent to or on behalf of client £1

Counsel Fees £45 per hour


This table of fees would be far more realistic and should be adopted forthwith?

This CORRECTION is necessary because of the theft being perpetrated against the Scottish Public, where the crooked Scottish lawyers have been allowed to steal and act as if they are above the law?

Scottish lawyers = the biggest organised crime gang in Scotland?

Anonymous said...

Ah well done Mr Cherbi and the gang,it looks like you are the cause of the lawyer's gripes what with that EU report & everything so well done its about time the media took on these THUG lawyers who are good at getting their own way too often.I'll make sure I buy a Sunday Mail from now on too!

Anonymous said...

What a waste of £160 million on these rats may as well scrap the entire legal aid system and bring in public defenders for all criminal cases

Anonymous said...

If some potential clients cannot get legal aid I believe they are fortunate indeed. They will not have to go through the Law Society SLCC mincer if it all goes tits up.

Lawyers are passionate about two things. Money and protecting each other, nothing else matters to these human rats.

"Save justice" no folks save yourselves by staying away from lawyers.

Anonymous said...

Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill hopes to cut the Legal Aid bill by making criminals pay some of their costs. The planned move, outlined in a Holyrood Bill, could save taxpayers around £3.9million.

Cut it by £80 million Kenny we dont need to be paying these leeches and their criminal clients!

Anonymous said...

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/health/hundreds-of-patients-hit-by-cancer-care-shortages.19548784
Hundreds of patients hit by cancer care shortages
HUNDREDS of Scottish cancer patients are waiting too long for treatment because of staffing and equipment shortages, The Herald can reveal.
Waiting-time guarantees have been broken on more than 1000 occasions in the past two-and-a-half years because NHS Scotland cannot cope with demand.

The problem seems to be growing, with the number of cases held up by staffing and resource problems growing year on year.

The Government insists the percentage of instances when targets have been breached has remained stable, but cancer charities and opposition politicians have expressed concern about the issue.


WELL TOO BAD CANCER SUFFERERS BECAUSE THE LAWYERS WANT THE £160 MILLION FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR GREEDY BRETHREN AND WE ALL KNOW LAWYERS POCKETS TAKE PRIORITY OVER THE REST OF US EVEN THOSE DESPERATELY IN NEED OF CARE AND MEDICAL ATTENTION

Anonymous said...

Are Scottish lawyers who go on strike like this deliberately perverting the course of justice for monetary gain i.e. FRAUD?

Afteral, the Law Society of Scotland have been allowed to operate a closed shop within Scotland where ONLY Scottish lawyers being members of the Law Society of Scotland are allowed to practise?

A monopoly of service if you will?

Thereby, any accused cannot call upon a lawyer in England to represent them in Scotland?

They simply have to employ a Scottish lawyer and if the Scottish lawyers have withdrawn their services in a market that their controllers have a monopoly over then I believe that these Scottish lawyers AND the Law Society of Scotland are guilty of a crime?

All of those accused who have been harmed by these crooked Scottish lawyers will have the right to sue for damages (if the corrupt Scottish system allowed for this), which it doesn't?

This corrupt action to hold the Scottish Government to ransom is the straw that broke the camels back?

The only measure to be taken now to prevent these criminals doing this in future MUST be to disband the Law Society of Scotland as an insidiously evil organisation hell bent on taking any action necessary to extort money from the Scottish Public?

Then in place of the Law Society of Scotland should be two separate organisations :-

The Scottish Defence Lawyers

And

The Scottish Prosecuting Lawyers

Both organisations should be independent of each other and should be diametrically opposed to and should not be allowed to collude with each other?

The Scottish Prosecuting Lawyers should also be separate from the Crown Office to stop further corruption and be contracted out on a strictly controlled direct individual financial basis, so that they have an incentive to maintain continual improvement standards in order to retain their contract as Prosecuters?

Anonymous said...

To all you people out there who have never dealt with lawyers be warned, they will do anything to you for money and reputations.

'Save justice' means protect lawyers incomes. They really stand for injustice and crushing their victims, some of those victims have committed suicide. Trust us who have dealt with them. You may regret it if you don't.

You will never get lawyers demonstrating to close two murderous organizations who are responsible for starving clients by cutting their money supply,
and sending ruined clients to lawyers who protect the Law Society. The Scottish Legal Complaints Commission and Law Society of Scotland will drive you to suicide to protect the scum who shout 'save justice'.
Please heed this warning. All lawyers are about is money and each others reputations.

Anonymous said...

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/suicides-illness-broken-families-and.html

Read the above, that the 'Save Justice' brigade don't want to talk about. You will never hear them condemning their Law Society, who have driven people to kill themselves. MacAskill calls it a professional organization. This is bullshit, it is a secretive murderous organization.

All lawyers are the same. Lawyer justice [ie] [protection] is all that matters to these creeps. Don't trust them ever.

Anonymous said...

Nice picture - the slogans suit this lot down to the ground.

Meanwhile everyone starves,freezes or drops dead in Britain these bloody lawyers want £500 an hour off the public purse!

Anonymous said...

You are spot on about MacAskill being in the job too long - what a laughing stock Scotland's courts/justice system is under him and his cronies

Anonymous said...

Great stuff that Sunday Mail story also mentions a few more legal aid cheats at the same time and isnt it telling not one of these ratbag lawyers is screaming about civil legal aid?Oh it must be because the rates are low and they cant cry injustice on the part of someone daft enough to get caught by the keystone cops and their nasty Crown Office handlers

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

At least two other suicides directly associated with clients dealings with the Master Policy are known, where in both cases, clients appeared to have been put under intolerable pressure, delay, deceit and intimidation by lawyers, the Law Society itself, and the insurers to the Master Policy, that the result of the entire process was to cause the claimants to end their lives after breaking under the strain of dealings with the apparently deadly Master Policy insurance scheme.
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Psychological Terrorists, that is what the Law Society of Scotland are. Murderers who drove people to such despair they ended their lives.

This is what striking lawyers want kept quiet. They don't care about justice only justice for them which means unlimited access to public money. No lawyer cares about client suicides, they enjoy it.

Anonymous said...

"Suicides, illness, broken families and ruined clients reveal true cost of Law Society's Master Policy which 'allows solicitors to sleep at night'"
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And they talk about justice. Jesus what planet are these freaks on?

Anonymous said...

£160,000,000.00 peanuts, £250,000,000.00 that wont be enough either. They want unlimited access to our money and Santa MacAskill will capitulate.

They measure justice not by winning or losing cases, but by how much ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££their law firms pull in. Money and each others reputation, that is what they care about. One was giving drug addicts £5.00 so the lawyer would claim Legal Aid.

They are striking to protect their mother-lode. They don't give a f**k about us.

Anonymous said...

Everyone should read A Diary of Injustice before going to any lawyer.

I have said it before and will do so again. Superb journalism from the DOI Team which cuts through the Law Society spin to show this profession for the criminals they really are.

Trust them not.

Anonymous said...

£500 per hour ROBBERY. I got paid that a week. And they want more. And 'Justice' these scumbags have a warped perception of that word.

Save our exorbitant incomes. Legal Aid money for nothing.

Anonymous said...

My lawyer demande £250 cash for defending me in a driving charge in Dumfries and I was on legal aid the case against me dropped and he also demande £700 with out legal aid knowing it

Anonymous said...

STRIKE ! More money for them, but Clients see little access to justice for legal aid hand-outs.
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Access to justice, NO in many cases it is access to HELL. A confederacy of mendacious life destroyers. Only fools or the uninitiated trust these corpse makers. You risk much when you trust one of these life destroyers.

If lawyers and clients played each other at football and we transferred this to the power relationship between lawyers, & clients the latter would have their legs broken by the Law Society. The power situation is like that. Mabe not the best analogy but the lawyers power is unlimited.

Anonymous said...

LAWYERS STRIKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR THEIR WALLETS NOT JUSTICE!

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

My lawyer demande £250 cash for defending me in a driving charge in Dumfries and I was on legal aid the case against me dropped and he also demande £700 with out legal aid knowing it.
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Yes they their own guardians. They can do anything to you. They starve clients too, and it is a routine scam. Have a read about these evil rats

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/solicitors-regulator-blamed-for-failure.html

I am not surprised your lawyer charged you money.

Anonymous said...

I have saw vacancies for Quantity Surveyors at £20.00 per hour. It requires an honour's degree and training to become chartered.

How can these criminals justify £500.00 per hour? What do surveying firms charge per hour?

Anonymous said...

Scottish lawyers = the biggest organised crime gang in Scotland?
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Totally agree, spot on and they have utter contempt for the Scottish people.

Anonymous said...

Crooked Scottish lawyers have been committing fraud against the SLAB Fund, so they are stealing from taxpayers with the approval of Scottish Politicians.

Anonymous said...

Try and get Legal Aid and one of these lawyer bums in the photo to sue your crooked lawyer. The atmosphere in their office will turn very frosty prior to you being shown the door. Every lawyer in this country is a criminal.

Anonymous said...

ONLY IN SCOTLAND!

Only in Scotland could you see a dangerous criminal gang out on the streets encouraging their members to strike against the Government to ensure that their defrauding of Public Funds can continue unfettered?

These striking thieves should have their names taken by upstanding citizens and then reported to the police for their arrest and if the police refuse to act (because their Crown Office controllers force them to stand down) then these upstanding citizens should make their own arrest according to the law?

These crooks will continue to steal and will remain above the law in Scotland until they are physically stopped?

They are a rampant, out of control criminal gang who are blinded by astonishing gravy slurping greed?

Anonymous said...

Once again the chivalrous DOI Team stand head and shoulders above all other so called investigative journalists by lifting the veil of treachery perpetrated against Scotland's People by the Law Society of Scotland and the corrupt judicial and prosecutorial system?

We are so grateful that the DOI Team are truly acting in the 'Public Interest'?

The Law Society of Scotland, the Crown Office, the Judiciary & the Government's idea of the 'Public Interest' is to lie and cheat the Scottish Public of the truth?

This makes them criminals who act as if they are immune to the force of law in Scotland?

Anonymous said...

Maybe the DOI should submit a Petition to the Scottish Parliament to make all Scottish lawyers outlaws and enemies of the state and maybe propose that they either turn themselves in to the police or maybe we can swap them en masse with let's say lawyers from Libya & Tunisia (on reflection that would be a horrible thing to do to our Arab spring brothers)?

Anonymous said...

I would not give them money. I would jail every one of them, for the evil they are. They are pure scum masquerading as decency.

Anonymous said...

THE SCOTTISH LEGAL PROFESSION ARE MURDERERS. THIS IS NOT AN EXTREME VIEW, IT IS REALITY. THEY USE BUREAUCRACY TO DOMINATE WHERE CLIENTS BANK ACCOUNTS ARE FROZEN TO SEIZE MONEY FOR LEGAL FEES. THEY DRIVE PEOPLE TO THE DEPTHS OF DESPAIR. THIS CAN HAPPEN TO ANY OF US.

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Kippen%20Campbell

IT IS TERRORISM BY BUREAUCRACY. READ AND LEARN ABOUT LEGAL HELL FROM A RADICALLY EVIL GROUP WHO TORTURE SCOTS FOR MONEY.

THE LAW SOCIETY COURTS AND SLCC WANTED THIS KEPT SECRET. THEY STARVE FOR PROFIT. HOW CAN THEY BE ANYTHING OTHER THAN PURE EVIL? THEY HAVE DONE THIS THOUSANDS OF TIMES. GET EDUCATED ABOUT THE SCUM THESE PEOPLE ARE. ARE THESE PEOPLE 'SAVING JUSTICE'? THEY FINANCIALLY STRANGLE VICTIMS FOR PROFIT.

Anonymous said...

THE LITIGATION INSURANCE SCAM, NEVER TRUST LAWYERS.

The Law Society, Law firms, Court Sheriffs, Judges, Scottish Parliament, employers, NHS, share the same insurers. So if you have ever tried to sue a lawyer, doctor, accountant you are claiming against the Law Societies insurers RSA.

How can anyone get justice against a system where all parties except you the client are paying premiums to the insurers you are claiming damages from. If your could get a lawyer and Legal Aid your lawyer would milk the Legal Aid and then dump you. That is how they 'save justice' and they probably get a no claims bonus for killing your case off.

High court Judges will have financial links to big business. RSA is one of them.

Anonymous said...

The Civil Courts review is like the SLCC and Law Society, a facade. It will never be implemented because they would be shitting in their own nests.

Everything about this mafia reeks of corruption.

Anonymous said...

Lie detecting technology for judges. They would want the Law Society to operate the detector.
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Douglas Mill's CV lied to the Justice 2 Committee. The Judges would get him to operate the lie detector.

What do we know about Judges? Nothing but they have immense power over peoples lives. This situation cannot be right.

Anonymous said...

These crooks are bleeding Scotland dry like legal vampires?

Anonymous said...

To the person who wrote about his lawyer demanding money I urge you to report this to Peter Cherbi and the press instead of going to the Scottish Legal Aid Board.I say this because I was put in a similar position and when I reported it to the Legal Aid's Edinburgh office I ended up being threatened by my lawyer and some nasty piece of work at Legal Aid who was clearly in leaque with my lawyer who gets about £150,000 a year in legal aid the funny thing is when I told him I was going to the newspapers after reading about legal aid fraud on Peter Cherbi's website the assault charge against me was dropped the next week by the Crown Office and my lawyer said to me if I forgot about everything that happened so would he.Well I have not forgotten and I am willing to bet there are people at the Legal Aid board who are getting paid by lawyers who are earning big sums of legal aid to look the other way when reports of frauds come in and I would like Mr Cherbi to look into this please

Anonymous said...

SLOW MOTION ON CROOKED LAWYERS : Law Society Chiefs unable to sniff out rogue solicitor, fail to serve court order banning him from targeting new victims.
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But Perth Sheriff Court allow Kippen Campbell to freeze their clients disability benefits for fees after they covered up his injuries. Next time you are in Court look at the bench. That is where the real scum is.
A ruthless evil mafia that is an accurate description of these teflon criminals.

Diary of Injustice said...

#Anonymous @ 30 November 2012 18:49

Send in those details of other instances of cash bungs to scottishlawreporters@gmail.com

#Anonymous @ 2 December 2012 19:26

Would like to hear more about your case and the name of your solicitor and any evidence of the cash payments ...

# Anonymous @ 3 December 2012 12:54

It will be looked into ...

Anyone who feels their solicitor is committing legal aid fraud or is demanding cash contributions from clients please email DOI via scottishlawreporters@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

MORE LAW SOCIETY LIES.

Information on the Pursuers' Panel For Professional Negligence Claims Against Solicitors
What is the Pursuers' Panel?

The Panel consists of six solicitors selected by the Society on the basis of their expertise in dealing with professional negligence claims to assist members of the public with advice about negligence claims against solicitors and, where appropriate, to assist solicitors already advising members of the public in connection with the handling of negligence claims against other solicitors.

Each member of the Panel is available to deal with negligence claims against other solicitors on an individual basis. However, where a claimant is already represented by a solicitor in relation to a negligence claim against another solicitor, members of the Panel will not provide advice to or act for that claimant, unless the existing solicitor refers the matter to a member of the Panel. It should be emphasised that members of the Panel are happy to receive referrals from other solicitors, either to handle the whole claim, or to assist with advice in relation to any aspect of a claim.

IF THE PUBLIC BELIEVE THIS BULLSHIT THEY HAVE NEVER DEALT WITH A COMPLAINT AGAINST A LAWYER. THE PERSUERS PANEL WILL PERSUE THE CLIENTS TO THE ABYSS. PLEASE NEVER TRUST THESE CREEPS, THEY WILL BE MEMBERS OF THE LEGAL DEFENCE UNION, WHO EXIST TO PROTECT LAW SOCIETY MEMBERS.

Anonymous said...

Labour MSP John Park is quitting the Scottish Parliament to take up a full-time trade union post.

Mr Park, who ran his party's 2011 election campaign, is stepping down as a regional member in Mid Scotland and Fife on 7 December.
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Is this the MSP who wanted Accountancy in bankruptcy looked into?

Anonymous said...

Papers relating to one such case now in the hands of Perth MSP John Park confirm that agents acting on behalf of the Accountant in Bankruptcy have blocked access to disability benefits payments made to individuals who have suffered sequestration under highly questionable circumstances, for up to SEVEN MONTHS at a time.
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It is Mr Park. Was he forced out of Politics?

Anonymous said...

DOI wrote


'We constantly read in the media of those who commit crimes never showing any repentance for their actions, usually doing their utmost to deny their wrongdoing, even when the evidence is all too plain to see.

And so, it is with the Law Society of Scotland, who never apologise for abusing clients rights when an innocent individual discovers they have been wronged grievously by a solicitor.The Law Society never apologizes of course, because they can get away with abusing clients, and don't see anything wrong with it.They see it as their right, and they have political friends who support it. As long as that is the case, nothing can stop it.

Imagine,if you will, an abuser, facing a law change which would send them to jail for longer, and force them to pay compensation of their victims, called up their political friends to prevent that law being changed, and the politicians said "Oh yes, we will allow you to go on abusing, we support you".
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The Law Society is Scotland's. It is the dominant force behind lawyer corruption and controls all policy to favour its own agenda. MSP's support this group so that voters have no protection from corrupt lawyers. The real First Minister is head of the Law Society. Salmond is a front for Lawyers rights.

Anonymous said...

What is just as important as controlling these criminals is spreading the word about them. They rob people of legal rights so people should avoid using lawyers as much as possible. Tell everyone who will listen how these people operate and fewer of us will need Legal Aid, although they will just use fictional clients and give their buddies in the Legal Aid Board a few hundred quid to keep them quiet.

But spread the word, better for people to realise what they are before trusting them.

Anonymous said...

It is sinister how much control these creeps have over the media.

Anonymous said...

Speaking as a High Street solicitor who does criminal legal aid work I have to agree there is an element of favouritism at the Scottish Legal Aid Board for certain law firms who appear to have understandings with SLAB over who (client or solicitor) obtains legal aid.
I am in no doubt money or favours change hands between certain law firms and SLAB.I know others in the profession feel the same way as myself.
Time & again I see criminal & civil legal aid claims rejected with ridiculous reasons yet somehow certain law firms manage to pull it off for clients with no trouble at all.
In my view SLAB aim to put as many High Street solicitors out of business as much as their bosses at the Scottish Government do so that only the large manageable firms exist.
If you look at what is happening in the profession you will see I am correct and I hope you pay as much attention to this as you do to other issues in the justice system equally deserving of publicity.

Anonymous said...

and just why should any of us be sorry about drug dealers getting millions in legal aid via their lawyers when they are raking in millions in DEATH?

These scumbags properly convicted in the courts should be made to pay back all the legal aid they get!

and send a few more lawyers to jail while you are at it!

Anonymous said...

Shouldnt this be called ROBBER AID???because it only goes to lawyers anyway!!!!

Anonymous said...

Someone should do a story on how much legal aid all that lot of lawyers in the photo have taken

Must be millions by the looks of it,also Lafferty included I see!

Anonymous said...

Speaking as a High Street solicitor who does criminal legal aid work I have to agree there is an element of favouritism at the Scottish Legal Aid Board for certain law firms who appear to have understandings with SLAB over who (client or solicitor) obtains legal aid. OH ITS POLITICAL, WE ARE SHOCKED I THINK NOT. I AM NOT HAVING A GO AT U. I DETEST LAWYERS.
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Hannah Arendt wrote" bureaucracy or a system of bureaus where no one is accountable for what is being done and it is impossible to identify culprits. SLAB is bureaucracy. I hope the DOI Team are not fed up with me quoting political theorists but difference is within the profession as this lawyer shows and most lawyers detest clients. This lawyer is on the receiving end of discrimination but very mildly in comparison to the Cherbi family.

Anonymous said...

Lafferty included I see! This fucker is on a few for sales adverts near my house. I wonder if they know about the vulnerable old lady quote? A really clever solicitor Austin you are.

Anonymous said...

Speaking as a High Street solicitor who does criminal legal aid work I have to agree there is an element of favouritism.
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Self regulation = favouritism. Try being a ruined client. There is extremist favouritism.

Anonymous said...

The Law Society of Scotland, who never apologise for abusing clients rights when an innocent individual discovers they have been wronged grievously by a solicitor.

They don't need to. They know the abused client will be repudiated by all lawyers so that they will never get a fair hearing under Scots Law. Fill all corridors of power with Lawyer protecting individuals and you have judicial dictatorship masked as democracy.

Anonymous said...

ONLY IN SCOTLAND!

Only in Scotland could you see a dangerous criminal gang out on the streets encouraging their members to strike against the Government to ensure that their defrauding of Public Funds can continue unfettered?

These striking thieves should have their names taken by upstanding citizens and then reported to the police for their arrest and if the police refuse to act (because their Crown Office controllers force them to stand down) then these upstanding citizens should make their own arrest according to the law?

These crooks will continue to steal and will remain above the law in Scotland until they are physically stopped?

They are a rampant, out of control criminal gang who are blinded by astonishing gravy slurping greed?
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This person is correct. If the Police cannot or will not stop this the public must do so by all peaceful methods. But the Law Society are the Scottish Government.

Anonymous said...

It's about 1C here in Edinburgh this morning and I dont see any of the 10,000 lying leech scum legal aid thieves out on the streets with their "save justice" placards!

Whats up legal aid robbers?Is it too cold to protest or are you inventing new ways to rob and steal from your other clients?

Anonymous said...

Clients are not human beings to these 'save justice' maggots. They are always left to do more damage.

If people knew the regulatory history of those on strike they would avoid them. Self regulation as a concept is corrupt. The Law Society is a den of evil.

Anonymous said...

Self protecting criminals. Disgusting filth.

Anonymous said...

So a solicitor doing criminal legal aid must be feeling guilty about it if he/she is on here crying about corruption at the Legal aid board and this is something that DOES NOT SURPRISE ME ONE BIT but only now is it coming out because everyone is in a desperate grab for the money now its going down!

Anonymous said...

SLAB say "The Scottish system is highly regarded internationally for the efforts made to ensure access to justice"

Nonsense.No one really believes this.Did MacBuckfast tell them to say that or was it the Filth Society of Scotland?

Anonymous said...

Lafferty included I see! This fucker is on a few for sales adverts near my house.
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I see his for sales signs in Lanarkshire too. The maggot who wants to rob old ladies.

Anonymous said...

Wow! that stuff on Lockhart is dynamite!wonder why other papers and the tv didnt go for it?Looks like they were all bought up/off by their own lawyers what a scandal!anyway well done for your dogged determination in exposing it all!

Anonymous said...

AXE NURSES FIRST LOL THIS IS EXACTLY THE MENTALITY OF LAWYERS THEY BELIEVE THEMSELVES TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT IN SOCIETY STUFF THEM ALL!!!

Anonymous said...

They should send masked riot squad cops in with cs gas tasers and dogs to break up this terror attempt against Scotland also charge them all with obstructing justice because they are blocking the access to the court building

Anonymous said...

We can reveal that Gerard Tierney, Massimo D’Alvito and Andrew Brophy, of Blantyre, Lanarkshire, breached the board’s code of practice. Tierney and D’Alvito have been reported to the Crown Office, who will decide whether to prosecute.

haha brown envelopes with the Crown Office independent counsel will ensure no prosecutions here!haha

Onwards to commit more legal aid fraud!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

It's about 1C here in Edinburgh this morning and I dont see any of the 10,000 lying leech scum legal aid thieves out on the streets with their "save justice" placards!

Whats up legal aid robbers?Is it too cold to protest or are you inventing new ways to rob and steal from your other clients?

4 December 2012 10:40

They are too busy inventing more ways to rip us off..

Anonymous said...

Judges and sheriffs are creaming off the top too no wonder our courts are crap with all these scroungers in them and its the scroungers on the bench and in suits not the ones being charged or those who have to go to court because some crap hospital has murdered their next of kin

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Lafferty included I see! This fucker is on a few for sales adverts near my house. I wonder if they know about the vulnerable old lady quote? A really clever solicitor Austin you are.
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If you want you can put a few copies of the DOI report through their door.

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/bbc-radio-scotland-debate-on-legal.html

Anonymous said...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-18811809

Judge reprimanded over 'burglary takes courage' remarks.

Anonymous said...

Yes there is a corrupt side to people working at SLAB and you can put that down to their bosses forgetting to watch their own employees just as much as lawyers and clients who try to fiddle legal aid.Anyway I am sure this is no surprise to Mr Cherbi who seems to have good sources of information.
Keep up the good work!

Anonymous said...

The Law Society never apologizes of course, because they can get away with abusing clients, and don't see anything wrong with it.They see it as their right, and they have political friends who support it. As long as that is the case, nothing can stop it.
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Agree 100% but liars like Douglas Mill dish it out but cannot hack it when the situation is reversed and it is proven he is a liar. Threw your dummy out of the pram Douglas? You had mild treatment compared to your victims. With your performance on U Tube perhaps you should be on the stage because you lied without compunction. Just what we expect from lawyers.

Anonymous said...

The Law Society of Scotland, the Crown Office, the Judiciary & the Government's idea of the 'Public Interest' is to lie and cheat the Scottish Public of the truth? YES.

This makes them criminals who act as if they are immune to the force of law in Scotland?

THEY ARE IMMUNE BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ENFORCERS OF THE LAW, SO THEY NEVER ENFORCE THE LAW AGAINST THEMSELVES. TEFLON GANGSTERS IN TOTAL CHARGE OF SCOTLAND.

Anonymous said...

Homeless on the streets living in cardboard boxes on the news tonight so how about spending some of the £160million on them instead of these greedy scumbags demanding £500 an hour from us for defending drug dealers and rapists!

Anonymous said...

Complicated legal difficulties are caused by lawyers who ruin clients and drag out cases to line their bank balances. The 16 year litigation case against Motherwell College being one example.

They are all liars folks, don't trust them.

Anonymous said...

Drug dealers, rapists, child abusers, murderers get legal representation in Scotland. Victims of the Law Society are solicitor barred because no lawyer will represent them. This is their method of control, filter out ruined clients by not representing them and represent only those who cannot damage lawyers reputations or their insurers bank balances.

This is how they dominate, public courts for drug dealers, rapists, child abusers, and murderers. Private hearings for complaints handling for ruined lawyers victims.

Result clients stay ruined and the 'save justice' brigade target their next victims. A bullet proof racket to screw Legal Aid and throw victims aside. This is why Lafferty's ideal client is an old lady with wealth. He knows he or his mates can take the lot and get away with it.

Anonymous said...

GANGSTERS

Anonymous said...

I hope the SLCC finds these reports offensive. A mark of the self regulators immature mindset.

But to be honest I don't think it is possible for these people to find campaigners not offensive. They are offended because they are not on the receiving end of their decisions. Suicides don't offend them either because a dead client is forever silenced.

Here is an analogy about the SLCC & Law Society. You are out for a walk and you are beaten and robbed. You go to the Police who violently attack you for reporting the crime. This is what happens at the SLCC & Law Society, lawyer robs/ruins you and they cover it all up. Their violence is violence against your mind and your assets. And they find this offensive because they are mature, oh yes, but only in the pants.

Don't trust lawyers, they are bad to the bone.

Anonymous said...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-20603501

Scottish legal aid row lawyers meet Kenny MacAskill.
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The unjust meeting the unjust. MacAskill's will be put on the rack in the Law Society dungeon.

Usual silence on the real reason for the strike from the lawyer infiltrated BBC.

Anonymous said...

Dickhead MacAskill again

'There are safeguards in place. Complaints about all legal practitioners can be made to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission which is an independent body. Further, allegations of misconduct by solicitors may be heard by the Scottish Solicitors’ Discipline Tribunal, another independent body'.

he is a liar and

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Margaret%20McDougall

Margaret will be out of politics like Mr Park soon or she will keep her job only if she shuts up about the Law Society Government of Scotland.

MacAskill silence from you on Mr Gordon of Perth's torture by Kippen Campbell & the AIB. DOI are independent and the horrific truth is there for all to see.



Anonymous said...

Central Ayrshire Labour MP Brian Donohoe said: “It seems major organised criminals and terror suspects qualify for unlimited Legal Aid, yet I have constituents who don’t get a penny simply because they have a few thousand pounds of savings.
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Or they are victims of organized criminals called Lawyers, Judges. Some of your constituents will be victims of Law Society Tyranny but you cannot talk about that Mr Donohoe, oh no that is taboo. Mr Cherbi is a victim of organized crime by Penman and The infamous Law Society of Scotland. Lawyers are not only plunderers of the public purse, they open doors to the courts only for the people they like. At least we know what they are. Every day I tell my kids never to trust lawyers. they are Scotland's clandestine organized crime gang.

'SAVE JUSTICE' NO SAVE OUR PENMAN'S AND FINANCIAL MOTHER-LODE, THAT IS THEIR GOAL.

Anonymous said...

Legal Profession & Legal Aid Act. Bad name. Better call it Lawyers Pilfer Legal Aid Act.

They shout 'save justice'. A remarkable comment from the most unjust group of legalised gangsters in Scotland.

It really is unbelievable how blind they think we are.

Anonymous said...

Santa Baby MacAskill will give a nice Legal Aid Christmas present to his lawyer buddies. The bastards are profligate wasters of lives and taxpayers money.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Homeless on the streets living in cardboard boxes on the news tonight so how about spending some of the £160 million on them instead of these greedy scumbags demanding £500 an hour from us for defending drug dealers and rapists!
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Yes indeed but also remember lawyers make people homeless for profit too. Your average lawyer would defend Hitler for money and argue he was a good guy. They defend child abusers and rapists but victims of their profession they leave without compensation. They never help those they rob.

They ruin people because they know they will be protected because lawyers never face court for their crimes. They operate in secret so their crimes are hidden. Perfectly organised crime with a perfect system to cover the crimes up. It's name 'self regulation'. It is supported by MSP's. It is tyranny dressed up as democracy.

Anonymous said...

They have a monopoly on Legal Aid access and a monopoly on access to justice so they never face their legal Waterloo for their crimes. As a lawyer once told me. 'The Courts are not there to prosecute dishonest lawyers'.

Anonymous said...

How many suitcases of our cash did MacAskill hand over to the lawyers at that meeting today?

Anonymous said...

Yes, it’s all about easy pickings for the legal profession, rather than helping Scots out of complicated legal difficulties created not by their own doing, rather their reliance on the professions who claim to have their clients best interests at heart …
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To be honest Peter Penman and my lawyer forced us into complex legal difficulties. We know what they all are, money grabbing ruthless scumbags. Anyone could be next, because the only interests lawyers have in the public is money.

Somewhere today clients money is being stolen, occupational injury covered up, old peoples houses stolen, clients having bank accounts frozen to pay legal fees etc. All because the elected maggots in Edinburgh underpin this criminality of the unelected maggots because it benefits them all. The Scottish Parliament is a branch of the Law Society of Scotland.

Anonymous said...

Speaking after the meeting with Mr MacAskill, Law Society president Austin Lafferty said: "Despite this latest meeting, there remains fundamental disagreement between the Scottish government and solicitors working at the frontline of our criminal justice system." AUSTIN WANTS ££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££

He added: "We are pleased to hear the cabinet secretary committing to increase the threshold at which someone would be expected to start paying contributions.

"However, it would be wrong if solicitors themselves ended up financing the cabinet secretary's sudden recognition of the unfairness of his original threshold of just £68 disposable income a week."


Just steal more legal aid money assholes.

Anonymous said...

Hey Austin,how many of your colleagues are committing legal aid fraud today??

Anonymous said...

Hey Austin,how many of your colleagues are committing legal aid fraud today??

Anonymous said...

Cuts to everything announced today by Osborne yet the lawyers are still demanding more state benefits for themselves @ £500 an hour!

Anonymous said...

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/bbc-radio-scotland-debate-on-legal.html

A recap on Lafferty the man who wants to rob old ladies.

Peter wrote I think, probably for me, the quote of the show came from Austin Lafferty - who said - his ideal client would be an old lady who came along to sell her house for £100,000 or something like that ... of course .. Garry Robertson quickly picked up on Lafferty's comment which sounded ..... shall we say .. stupid ? HE AINT BRIGHT I thought ... along with, probably the whole audience, sure - an old lady with £100,000 to a Scottish lawyer must seem like an easy target .... and I can understand why then, he came up with such a thing .... because certainly from my own experience in the Borders - there has been many an old lady robbed by Scottish lawyers - while they were alive, and certainly after they died ... so, yes, a great quote to sum up the Scottish legal profession - let's rip off the old people ! - after all - he said it ! - the famous Austin Lafferty !

To quote from a great TV comedy "what a plonker' Austin, top dipstick at the Law Society of Scotland. Bright guy eh??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Anonymous said...

£160 million not enough Austin? If you were as interested in client welfare as you are in money the public would have a positive opinion of many of you. But you are human parasites sponging of the taxpayer. You are benefit scroungers, benefits for lawyers for poor service.

Anonymous said...

Scottish legal aid row remains unresolved.

Derail the gravy train. End the Scottish Legal Aid rip off. 'Save justice' the most corrupt and expensive profligate waste of taxpayers money in Europe. Get over it Law Society. Five million Scots demand justice not robbery of their cash to finance Lafferty's mob. Not nice being on the receiving end of what you cherry pick as injustice.

Anonymous said...

STRIKE ! More money for them, but Clients sees little access to justice for legal aid hand-outs.

Facts.

Their Union drive people to suicide. No access to justice to protect lawyers who ruin members of the public.

They never lose. Clients lose.

They steal client’s money. Don't let then near your bank accounts.

The starve clients by seizing disability benefits.

Their Law Society phone the legal aid board to stop your legal aid when they want crooked lawyers protected.

They want you to trust them but they are professional criminals whose corrupt track record is hidden by the Law Society.

They get bonuses to cover up occupational injury.

Crown office refuses to prosecute lawyers who steal legal aid money. Now you know why Scottish Legal Aid is £160 million per year and counting. Give some of it to the NHS.

Lawyers are some of the most unjust people in the country. Law Society wanted report on £160,000,000.00 Scottish Legal Aid robbery covered up.

The Law Society think Scots are there to be used and abused by the legal profession. These people do not care about criminal or civil law clients. They care about £500.00 per hour. If they were getting £1000.00 per hour they would still be striking. If one lawyer ruined your life they all withdraw legal service to you so you cannot sue the lawyer who ruined you. They are without exception all scum. Avoid these people at all costs for your physical and mental well being. We have dealt with them and their Law Society. We tell you the truth to save you from legal hell.

Anonymous said...

Trust the DOI Team. They tell how it really is about lawyer thugs.

Anonymous said...

http://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/a-truly-independent-nhs-complaints-system

Anonymous said...

My solicitor threatened to withdraw from acting in my case if I didn't hand over £600 in cash and I was already on legal aid so they must be complaining because what he did to me and what you say is true they cant charge us a bribe after the one they took I had to give him the money because he said I would not get any other lawyer at short notice and yes the Procutrator Fiscal also dropped my case to give me a warning only

Anonymous said...

Oh dear look at all these comments about dodgy SLAB people taking bribes offered by lawyers (no surprise due to the sums involved of £160 Million) and lawyers able to steal millions in legal aid at will and get away with it.The Law Society will be doing their nut all this is coming out in print even though I've been thinking this myself for some time.

That comment earlier asking how much the lawyers in the picture have scooped in legal aid is a good one,hope someone is able to answer this because for sure it'll be a huge sum and make their protest look even worse!

Anonymous said...

Was Austin Lafferty and the gang salivating at MacAskill's suitcase stuffed with £160million?
It's a wonder they let him out the meeting without some secret under the table deal..

Anonymous said...

Of 265,830 cases sent to the Crown Office, only 41.7 per cent were brought to court. In England and Wales, 90.6 per cent of all cases resulted in court action.

With sometimes well over £1000 in criminal legal aid being spent on each of those dropped cases there is a few million going out the window in easy pickings for lawyers on cases that will never get to court.

Also starting to notice those comments about cases being dropped after people have been asked to make bung payments to lawyers who are also getting paid legal aid.Do the lawyers also have a deal with the Crown Office to drop these cases too?Seems to me they must know about this yet no charges for lawyers also breaking the law on legal aid payments?

This bunch are corrupt all the way to the court!Wouldn't surprise me if I hear next that the judges are also in on it!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

My solicitor threatened to withdraw from acting in my case if I didn't hand over £600.
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Not surprised at all they are rotten vile specimens of humanity. I would either be shot than trust another lawyer. And if you had to go to another law firm, a few phone calls would ensure you could not get another lawyer. Its blackmail, pay up or be left without legal rights.

Anonymous said...

This was emailed to me by a friend and just to say I too was asked for £500 contribution towards my criminal legal aid while my case was running but did not get a receipt and when I asked why I had to pay it my solicitor told me it is the law and blamed the SNP.My case was dropped by the crown and there was no real evidence against me other than the statement of a now retired Police Officer who never even attended the scene of the supposed incident.At the time I thought my solicitor was telling the truth but how can he have been now lawyers are striking about this contributions thing before it even comes into force?Suppose this happens to others and we are all getting conned into paying lawyers a cash sum not recorded?

Anonymous said...

Very interesting this EU report basically charging the Scottish justice system with being out of touch,inaccessible and the most expensive in Europe.So where does this leave Salmond's plan to join the EU now they know Scots justice is a pile of expensive greedy crap for lawyers and pensioner judges who also happen to be benefits cheats and tax dodgers?

Anonymous said...

This may be slightly off topic but having listened to comments from a highly skilled psyhcoligist who has studied body languague and watched this several times I now firmly believe that the incident on television where Philip Scofield handed a note to the PM was very carefully planned , no doubt some skilled advocate had planned this. It certainly worked

Anonymous said...

Solicitors from Hell was removed from the internet because most feedback was true. These people really have horrific power because they are the enforcers of the law. They control many branches of the press, the Police [stand down] and Procurator Fiscals decide which cases go to court.

You need a lawyer to enforce rights against your crooked lawyer. This is why the profession is totally corrupt. They repeatedly ruin people and block them from a legal remedy in Court or in the private secret club called the Law Society of Scotland. The Legal profession worldwide dominate using blocking techniques, and bureaucracy to kill of your rights against any lawyer. They use you for financial gain and then dump you so that you never get to court.

I guarantee people using lawyers today, your lawyers have been reported to the Law Society many times. Put it this way, how can you all find out? Chances are you are trusting a criminal who has an abysmal record of ripping clients off. And if your lawyers ruin your lives I give you another guarantee, you will stay ruined. Trust us, we are the ruined survivors of this network of evil purporting to be honest.
They are one of the largest organized crime gangs worldwide.

Anonymous said...

Solicitors from Hell was taken off the internet for one simple reason.

The Judiciary want to judge the public but do not want the public judging them.

Anonymous said...

I wonder how many people have suffered at the hands of the filth in the picture?

Anonymous said...

Legal Aid scroungers ruin people and threaten to drop your case if you don't give them an illegal cash lump sum in their offices. If people trust this scum they will keep ruining lives for £££££££££££££. They are financial and emotional blackmailers because the threat to drop your case is coercion. They are the ultimate human filth.

Anonymous said...

A WARNING TO EVERYONE. WHAT THEY WON'T TELL YOU.

Do not try to sue any company, local authority, doctor, dentist, or accountant. Lawyers will represent you for three years Legal Aid money [as Mr Lafferty knows] but everyone above including lawyers are insured by the Law Societies insurers. So if your lawyer is Mr Lafferty his law firm pays insurance premiums to the same insurance company, the local authority, doctor, dentist, or accountant pay premiums to. YOU CAN NEVER WIN. THEY NEED THEIR NO CLAIMS BONUSES. THEY WANT THE LEGAL AID MONEY.

It is a well polished scam so MacAskill can chop litigation Legal Aid to all Law firms now. Not Laffing oops laughing now Lafferty are you. Royal Sun Alliance now RSA control all litigation through their clients outlined above. The Law Society refused to investigate a Glasgow solicitor [NOT LAFFERTY] who helped starve one of his clients for five months. Do not trust these people. Listen to the people who have dealt with them and never trust any lawyer.

They are all liars and tell you your case will get to court. I checked my court file two years into my case. There were no documents from my lawyer in it because for the reasons outlined above, my case was never going to court. Makes sense when I realised my trusted lawyer would have been paying some of my damages through a common insurer.
Ask your lawyer who we his professional indemnity insurers?

LAWYERS STRIKE CLIENTS OFF said...

These people strike clients off every day of the week. A struck off client's details are e-mailed to the Law Society. Then the e-mail is forwarded to all law firms to ensure no matter how many firms you go to no lawyer will help you.

The Law Society don't strike lawyers off, they strike clients off so they can do whatever they want to you. And complain about a lawyer to your MSP, and you will be struck off again. This is organised crime.

Anonymous said...

Only haters of justice dominate because domination in any form destroys the ability to act.

Anonymous said...

"Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity".


"Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."

A good summing up applicable to Self Regulation and the Judiciary.

John Emerich Edward Dalberg Acton.


Anonymous said...

me too I was told to hand over £1,700 (while getting legal aid)otherwise my lawyer said he would cease to represent me and make sure I couldn't get another lawyer.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

me too I was told to hand over £1,700 (while getting legal aid)otherwise my lawyer said he would cease to represent me and make sure I couldn't get another lawyer.
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If a client tried to get money from a lawyer by blackmailing him that would be a criminal offence. Your lawyer is saying give me money or I will withdraw you legal rights. This will be happening everywhere, because there is no monitoring of this behaviour.

Anonymous said...

• The report reveals that Scotland’s sheriffs top the European pay league.

Researchers compared the wages of lower court judges across Europe.

Our sheriffs, with an average salary of 150,106 euros (£120,000), were number one, ahead of the Irish and Swiss.

Next were sheriffs’ counterparts in England and Wales, who were paid 120,998 euros (£95,000).

Not only were sheriffs the highest-paid, they also topped the table comparing their earnings to the national average. They earned 5.2 times the average Scot’s wage.

GREEDY SCOTTISH JUDGES AND SHERIFFS ITS ABOUT TIME THEIR SALARIES WERE DROPPED AND ALL THEIR FINANCES DECLARED LIKE YOU SAID IN YOUR PETITION!

Anonymous said...

AL AWYER said...

Oh i see you have supporters Mr Cherbi but I'm not one of them

The sooner we get rid of you and all your kind the better for us.

Pity someone wouldn't blow you up along with the rest of these nutcases and your friends.
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I was doing some searching Peter and found this comment. He wants us all blown up. Only a nasty sick minded individual would wish for this. Glad you stayed in Scotland.

Anonymous said...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9728247/MPs-expenses-MPs-hire-lawyer-to-fight-watchdog-order-to-repay-second-home-profits.html

MPs have hired a lawyer to challenge their own expenses watchdog in court to let them keep the profits from the sale of their taxpayer-funded second homes.
Adam Afriyie wants to scrap Ipsa: MPs’ expenses: plan to bring down tough new expenses regime
Adam Afriyie MP said it was only right that Ipsa was 'answerable in law for the fairness and legality of its actions'
Comments164 Comments

The news marks a further deterioration in relations between the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority and the MPs it is supposed to regulate, after Ipsa recently published part-redacted details of MPs' landlords.

The MPs are challenging a rule that they must repay profits made on their second homes between May 2010 and August 2012, even if they have not sold the property.
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Another bunch of money grabbing rats. They always look for ways around what they do not like. And some of them wonder why the public do not have any trust in politicians. Just like Lafferty's mob.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2009/07/suicides-illness-broken-families-and.html
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Next time it could be a member of your family. Don't trust lawyers.

Anonymous said...

Kippen Campbell freeze clients disability benefits for fees after they covered up his injuries. Like the Law Society & SLCC this brutal routine treatment of clients does not bother them. They love it and enjoy it. What they all hate is the fact the DOI Team reported it.

I think it is not too extreme to say Scottish Lawyers are pure evil and like the Nazis regard people as subhuman's or in German untermenschen. I have no doubt they would gas the DOI Team to silence them forever if they could get away with it. They were starving Mr Gordon and another law firm and doctors practice did the same to my sister for five months. This starving technique is common practice and they have been getting away with it because of self regulation. They are human rights violators. If you want to trust a lawyer this is what can happen to you.

Anonymous said...

£500 per hour = £20,000.00 a week.
X 48 weeks say = £960,000.00 per lawyer.

They must be needing the money. £960,000.00 = a lot of justice you are saving Lafferty and no doubt you would still want the old ladies home.

Anonymous said...

Pity you arent an msp and able to say this in the Scottish Parliament as none of them have the guts to come out with this kind of criticism.

Anonymous said...

Lawyers hate the DOI Team because DOI tell the public what the Law Society never want us to know. They are a secretive criminal gang who allow their lawyers to ruin peoples lives and then they cover it all up.

Anonymous said...

Had countless arguments with legal aid about my case my lawyer demanding cash off me several times and then after I complained about him the legal aid board told me my solicitor had never applied for legal aid for me in the first place which I believe to be a complete lie as I signed all the forms and have a letter from legal aid telling me my application was being looked at.I've looked up my solicitor's firm on the legal aid website and they are getting a lot of money every year so this is some kind of racket going on between lawyers and the legal aid board I think to stop anyone finding out about the lawyers taking cash while also getting legal aid hope you can look into this please

Anonymous said...

Hey you Lafferty bums, good job I was not there. I would have told the public they ain't shouting read a Diary of Injustice.

They don't want the truth coming out. Bastards.

Anonymous said...

From space this beautiful planet must look awesome. But if there are super intelligent beings out there, it must be obvious to them that humans are in a state of constant flux. The lawyer client power imbalance is a war and one day it will be the same at the international level. Injustice will eventually cause the nuclear obliteration of the human race.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

This was emailed to me by a friend and just to say I too was asked for £500 contribution towards my criminal legal aid while my case was running but did not get a receipt and when I asked why I had to pay it my solicitor told me it is the law and blamed the SNP.My case was dropped by the crown and there was no real evidence against me other than the statement of a now retired Police Officer who never even attended the scene of the supposed incident. At the time I thought my solicitor was telling the truth but how can he have been now lawyers are striking about this contributions thing before it even comes into force?Suppose this happens to others and we are all getting conned into paying lawyers a cash sum not recorded?
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They have total power. They will tell you its the law, threaten to drop your rights and phone their colleagues to stop you getting another lawyer. Why, because they are masters of organised crime. Your lawyer is like every lawyer, not fit to practice because they control everything to their benefit.

Anonymous said...

Lawyers are getting illegal cash bungs from their clients, judges will be throwing ,cases too for cash bungs. Crown office too. The plot thickens.

Anonymous said...

Austin Lafferty - who said - his ideal client would be an old lady who came along to sell her house for £100,000 or something like that ... of course .. Garry Robertson quickly picked up on Lafferty's comment which sounded ..... shall we say .. stupid ? HE AINT BRIGHT I thought ... along with, probably the whole audience, sure - an old lady with £100,000 to a Scottish lawyer must seem like an easy target.
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And what did they do to him for wanting to rob old ladies? A reward.

Gave him a top job in The Law Society of Scotland. Bright lot eh. People are wrong if they think those in the professions are smart.

Anonymous said...

Most trustworthy professions?

Nurses 82%
Doctors 80%
Teachers 69%
Lawyers 35%
Estate agents 11%
Bankers 11%
Journalists 7%
Politicians 7%

To the Law Society and SLCC. As Abraham Lincoln pointed out, "You may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

The enlightened people who know what you are keep telling people never to trust lawyers. We are victims of lawyers determined to prevent others suffering the same fate.

Don't change your ways for us. If the figures are accurate the 35% will be enlightened. It's time you mendacious people reaped your rotten harvest. God bless the DOI team for showing them for what they really are.

Anonymous said...

You want access to justice? Trust a lawyer and you will get access to hell, especially in the area of civil law. The Law Society and SLCC are not for complaints from clients. They were set up by lawyers for lawyers. They are access to safety for your lawyer to conceal his or her corruption from the public so they can look for their next victim.

I got a text from a law firm. Have you been injured, all that usual bullshit, of concern for me. I replied don't trust lawyers.
They replied, your comment has been noted.

To all of the motorists reading this blog, with the rise in the no win no fee lawyers I do not give take passengers in my car anymore. Only family. My sister's car was hit while she was in it in a supermarket car park. She was parked engine off
and a reversing motorist hit her vehicle. Impact speed perhaps one mile per hour. Her car had minor damage to paintwork. Later the no win no fee brigade wanted her to claim for personal injury when she was not injured. She said sue the lawyer who covered up my occupational injury. That killed that conversation, he hung up.

Anonymous said...

Why should The Law Society stifle public criticism of allegedly shoddy lawyers by closing Solicitors From Hell? It is because nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity".

The Law Society cannot bear discussion and publicity because its victims are warning others that lawyers are not a profession. They are a global organised crime gang. Their weapon of domination, lawyer policing lawyer, they have a lot of client destruction behind them they want silenced.

Anonymous said...

I hear news of you telling people about lawyers dirty tricks and bungs is spreading around the legal profession and making certain scumbags very unhappy.

Also the SLCC will not be pleased about this because they throw out anything to do with legal aid apparently and now people have something to quote about legal aid bungs and lawyers demanding cash on the side.

Wonder if the taxman is rearing this (hope so)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Dickhead MacAskill again

'There are safeguards in place. Complaints about all legal practitioners can be made to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission which is an independent body. Further, allegations of misconduct by solicitors may be heard by the Scottish Solicitors’ Discipline Tribunal, another independent body'.

he is a liar and

http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Margaret%20McDougall

Margaret will be out of politics like Mr Park soon or she will keep her job only if she shuts up about the Law Society Government of Scotland.

MacAskill silence from you on Mr Gordon of Perth's torture by Kippen Campbell & the AIB. DOI are independent and the horrific truth is there for all to see.

5 December 2012 12:11
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Interesting.....

Not a peep from Ms Margaret McDougall after the Law Society of Scotland read her the riot act?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2006/03/bbc-radio-scotland-debate-on-legal.html

A recap on Lafferty the man who wants to rob old ladies.

Peter wrote I think, probably for me, the quote of the show came from Austin Lafferty - who said - his ideal client would be an old lady who came along to sell her house for £100,000 or something like that ... of course .. Garry Robertson quickly picked up on Lafferty's comment which sounded ..... shall we say .. stupid ? HE AINT BRIGHT I thought ... along with, probably the whole audience, sure - an old lady with £100,000 to a Scottish lawyer must seem like an easy target .... and I can understand why then, he came up with such a thing .... because certainly from my own experience in the Borders - there has been many an old lady robbed by Scottish lawyers - while they were alive, and certainly after they died ... so, yes, a great quote to sum up the Scottish legal profession - let's rip off the old people ! - after all - he said it ! - the famous Austin Lafferty !

To quote from a great TV comedy "what a plonker' Austin, top dipstick at the Law Society of Scotland. Bright guy eh??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

5 December 2012 22:16
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I think you will find that his ideal client would be a wee old lady who had lost her faculties and who had a large bank balance......?

Rich pickings, easy pickings from the vulnerable?

Why?

Because the Law Society's system is set up in a deliberate way so that the CAN?

i.e. there is no disincentive or repercussions for a Scottish lawyer not to act unlawfully with impunity?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Scottish legal aid row remains unresolved.

Derail the gravy train. End the Scottish Legal Aid rip off. 'Save justice' the most corrupt and expensive profligate waste of taxpayers money in Europe. Get over it Law Society. Five million Scots demand justice not robbery of their cash to finance Lafferty's mob. Not nice being on the receiving end of what you cherry pick as injustice.

6 December 2012 10:04
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If the Scottish striking scumbag lawyers were genuinely fighting for Justice and for the accused, then why don't they charge 50% less in fees to insure there is access to Justice for all?

This would exemplify their point?

Because they are lying scumbags who are only interesting in maintaining their ability to defraud the publicly funded Scottish Legal Aid Fund?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Of 265,830 cases sent to the Crown Office, only 41.7 per cent were brought to court. In England and Wales, 90.6 per cent of all cases resulted in court action.

With sometimes well over £1000 in criminal legal aid being spent on each of those dropped cases there is a few million going out the window in easy pickings for lawyers on cases that will never get to court.

Also starting to notice those comments about cases being dropped after people have been asked to make bung payments to lawyers who are also getting paid legal aid.Do the lawyers also have a deal with the Crown Office to drop these cases too?Seems to me they must know about this yet no charges for lawyers also breaking the law on legal aid payments?

This bunch are corrupt all the way to the court!Wouldn't surprise me if I hear next that the judges are also in on it!

6 December 2012 18:24
Sssssssscccccccccaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmm

The Scottish Crown Office deliberately drop a high number of cases from being prosecuted so that within this number they can hide all of the cases being dropped on a nod and a wink and in order that they can protect their own (e.g. the infamous 14 sample crooked Scottish lawyers who were caught defrauding the Legal Aid fund) and other dodgy favours given?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
This was emailed to me by a friend and just to say I too was asked for £500 contribution towards my criminal legal aid while my case was running but did not get a receipt and when I asked why I had to pay it my solicitor told me it is the law and blamed the SNP.My case was dropped by the crown and there was no real evidence against me other than the statement of a now retired Police Officer who never even attended the scene of the supposed incident.At the time I thought my solicitor was telling the truth but how can he have been now lawyers are striking about this contributions thing before it even comes into force?Suppose this happens to others and we are all getting conned into paying lawyers a cash sum not recorded?

6 December 2012 21:07
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This is a well practised Law Society of Scotland fraud?

Double & Triple Billing?

Anonymous said...

"Their Law Society phone the legal aid board to stop your legal aid when they want crooked lawyers protected."

This is one of their most often practised ways they defeat the ends of justice?

Anonymous said...

This is theft (although the SLAB staff are complicit to this crime by allowing it to happen)?

Report your crooked Scottish lawyer to the POLICE as soon as possible and make sure the Police give you a CRIME NUMBER and NOT an incident number?

This is crucial.

Ask them to keep you updated as to the progress of their investigation bearing in mind that this is a prime facie case of theft?

Anonymous said...

A point of order on the infamous Victorian Scottish Justice system (Georgian, Elizabethan, Tudor, the Dark Ages etc etc.....)?

Since our completely broken Scottish Justice system gets worse by the day and lurches further and further back-in-time, would now be the right time to question what we should do with Scotland's crooked lawyers?

Should they be put in stocks in the high street or be burnt at the stake?

My personal favourite would be to hang, drawn and quarter them?

Anonymous said...

Just to make sure I've got this right......


We have too many Scottish crooked lawyers?

We have the most corrupt self regulation of our lawyers?

They demand the highest pay in the whole of Europe?

For the worst figures of successful prosecutions?

They freely steal from the State and when the Scottish Government attempt to stop the ever increasing SLAB fraud money slush fund, then these crooked Scottish lawyers go on strike?

They are directly responsible for massive injustice and collusion to defeat justice in multiple numbers of infamous cases?

Is it not time to rid Scotland of it's joke Scottish lawyers reign of terror over Scotland's People and rid the country of the evil Law Society of Scotland?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
me too I was told to hand over £1,700 (while getting legal aid)otherwise my lawyer said he would cease to represent me and make sure I couldn't get another lawyer.

7 December 2012 15:54
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EXTORTION

THEFT

REPORT TO POLICE ASAP

Anonymous said...

Given how corrupt the self regulation system is in Scotland, just how many Scottish lawyers are NOT crooked?

A) 1 in 10,000 (as the Law Society of Scotland, their SSDT, their SLCC and the Crown Office would have you believe)

B) 1 in 1,000

C) 1 in 100

D) 1 in 10

E) 1 in 5

F) 1 in 3

G) 1 in 2

H) ALL OF THEM



Answers on a postcard please to:

Gravy House,
4, Heavens Sake
Fill Your Boots Lane
Stealing
ST33 LNG

Anonymous said...

I have a suggestion of how to identify a Scottish crooked lawyer?

They should all be made to wear a ten-gallon hat because like in the Western movies these were worn by notorious thieving bandits who were above the law?

Thereby they will not be allowed to pretend any longer that they are members of society?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Had countless arguments with legal aid about my case my lawyer demanding cash off me several times and then after I complained about him the legal aid board told me my solicitor had never applied for legal aid for me in the first place which I believe to be a complete lie as I signed all the forms and have a letter from legal aid telling me my application was being looked at.I've looked up my solicitor's firm on the legal aid website and they are getting a lot of money every year so this is some kind of racket going on between lawyers and the legal aid board I think to stop anyone finding out about the lawyers taking cash while also getting legal aid hope you can look into this please

8 December 2012 18:37
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It is not even an OPEN SECRET any more as they are robbing us blind with an ever increasing self righteous criminal intent because they know that they are ABOVE THE LAW and the Crown Office's refusal to prosecute the infamous 14 who were caught red handed by the SLAB as a sop because the SLAB staff thought that they were going to be rumbled over this fraud (because they had been reported to the Fraud Police) but the Crown Office rode to their rescue with the classic 'NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST' catch-all where they do not prosecute because if the SCOTTISH PUBLIC became aware of what is going on then the Scottish lawyers would be lynched and their sick stealing pay would be over?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Lawyers are getting illegal cash bungs from their clients, judges will be throwing ,cases too for cash bungs. Crown office too. The plot thickens.

9 December 2012 11:09
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I know for certain that at least in one case The Lord Advocate and a senior Crown Office Director were involved in deliberately refusing to prosecute a crooked Scottish lawyer with crime they knew that they committed, which would have resulted in certain jail for the crooked Scottish lawyer?

However, they let this crooked Scottish lawyer off Scot Free and wilfully defeated the ends of justice to pursue their own unlawful conduct?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Most trustworthy professions?

Nurses 82%
Doctors 80%
Teachers 69%
Lawyers 35%
Estate agents 11%
Bankers 11%
Journalists 7%
Politicians 7%

To the Law Society and SLCC. As Abraham Lincoln pointed out, "You may fool all of the people some of the time; you can even fool some of the people all of the time; but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

The enlightened people who know what you are keep telling people never to trust lawyers. We are victims of lawyers determined to prevent others suffering the same fate.

Don't change your ways for us. If the figures are accurate the 35% will be enlightened. It's time you mendacious people reaped your rotten harvest. God bless the DOI team for showing them for what they really are.

9 December 2012 11:46
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I have my doubts about where these statistics were compiled from, as in Scotland I am sure the figure would be in the low single figures for Scottish lawyers such is the consequence of their unlawful behaviour?

Anonymous said...

I know someone who was in receipt of legal aid but their lawyer demanded that their home was sold from beneath them making them homeless, so that this persons lawyer could give £40,000 to the OPPOSITION and take £40,000 in legal fees (remember this person HAD legal aid in place)?

It turned out that this set of circumstances was negotiated behind this persons back by their own lawyer and the Law Society's lawyer in a bold attempt to defeat the ends of justice?

Yes, you have guessed it..........THE OPPOSITION was a well known crooked Scottish lawyer?

They could do this because this member of the public has become an ENEMY OF THE STATE and that the police have been warned off to allow crimes perpetrated by the State to be perpetrated against this wholly innocent member of the Public?

Anonymous said...


I think you will find that his ideal client would be a wee old lady who had lost her faculties and who had a large bank balance......?

Rich pickings, easy pickings from the vulnerable?

Why?

Because the Law Society's system is set up in a deliberate way so that the CAN?

i.e. there is no disincentive or repercussions for a Scottish lawyer not to act unlawfully with impunity?
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Yes indeed the Law Society of Scotland is the centre of a poisonous spider and its legs are all the Law Firms who separate the public into two groups. The people who are no threat to lawyer's can secure [dodgy] legal representation and the people they have ruined who cannot get legal representation. THIS MEANS NO ONE IS SAFE.

Self regulation is simply organised crime. Law Society gangsters don't need weapons to underpin their power base. Their formidable silent hidden weapon is secrecy, lawyer judging lawyer means no member of the public is safe.

No public courts for corrupt lawyers like Penman. Oh no just the private mendacious Law Society to save his career like all the other corrupt filth that is the Scottish Legal Profession, secret, unaccountable and utterly corrupt.

Never trust a lawyer, they have designed the perfect system to ruin you, throw you aside and look for another potential victim.
The Law Society Private Court, SSDT, SLCC ave there to protect only lawyers.

Anonymous said...

I think you will find that his ideal client would be a wee old lady who had lost her faculties and who had a large bank balance......?

Rich pickings, easy pickings from the vulnerable?
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Yes she is their prey.

Anonymous said...

One of those in the picture has been in trouble with the Law Society but I wont mention his name suffice to say he should not be allowed anywhere near public funds