Transparency register now essential for judges. THEY HAVE the power to strike down legislation from our elected Scottish Parliament, enact their own versions of the law with Acts of Sederunt, suspend your liberty, and dodge questions on their activities - yet figures reveal Scotland’s secretive judicial elite who control our courts – have received a staggering £471 million of public cash for salaries and judicial related ‘activities’ since the financial crash of 2008.
Judges on up to £230K a year - some holding judicial posts for well over twenty years, have also directly benefited from a massive £885 million of public cash thrown at Scotland's courts since 2008 - including a £58 million taxpayer funded refit of Parliament House – the headquarters of Scotland's current Lord President & Lord Justice General - Lord Carloway.
And, don’t forget the staggering £1.207 billion of legal aid – yet another public cash subsidy for the legal profession to prop up our creaking, expensive and exclusive billion pound courts who close their doors as soon as they hear the word “transparency”.
Yet - the collection of Senators of the Court of Session, temporary judges, sheriffs of varying titles, tribunal & land court judges – (around 265 in number) and an army of up to 450 justices of the peace - declare not one single interest, connection, item of wealth, property value, or paid outside work, outside of revelations in the media of judges' links to big banks & dodgy businesses contained in the SCTS Board register.
There is no other group in society who are allowed such a privilege of secrecy - while benefiting directly from billions of pounds in public cash.
The weak, disabled and most vulnerable in society are strip searched and harassed day & night, whenever they dare ask for help.
Even an elected councillor, msp and all other public officials must tally up their stationery costs and claims for rubber bands.
Yet there are no questions, requirements of transparency or accountability for the judiciary - who jet set at-will around the world on taxpayers cash, operate a judicial version of a diplomatic service and rake in cash for speeches, conference attendance, and legal work - without fear of having to declare one single item of their wealth, connections to despots, the rich & powerful and links to big business - in public.
By any stretch of the imagination, this scenario, is shocking.
The figures - sourced from the Scottish budget on judicial salaries, travel, junkets, ‘training’ and various enterprises operated by the Judicial Office for Scotland falling under the term “Courts Group” to various related courts & tribunal support entities- reveal the total spend on Scotland’s judiciary since 2008 stands at £470.6m.
Budget spend on judiciary: 2007-2008: £41.8m, 2008-2009: £44.3m, 2009-2010: £46.3m, 2010-2011: £51.1m, 2011-2012: £50.0m,2012-2013: £52.4m, 2013-2014:£52.1m,2014-2015: £51.6m, 2015-2016: £40.5m (missing £11.1 switched to SCTS budget), 2016-2017: £40.5m (missing £11.1 plus - switched to SCTS budget)
Courts Group had overall responsibility for financing the cost of the Judiciary, including Scottish Government contribution to the superannuation costs of the judiciary, for the fees to part-time judiciary, for the running costs of a number of small departments and other judicial expenses (training and travel etc).
Judicial salaries are defined as non-voted spending which is met from the Scottish Consolidated Fund but is also part of the Departmental spending limit.
Courts group was renamed Courts, Judiciary and Scottish Tribunals Service during 2012. In the latest Scottish Government 2016-2017 budget, the designation defining judicial costs is tagged as “Judiciary”.
Figures sourced from the Scottish Budget reveal the total spend on Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service (SCTS) since 2008 stands at £884.7m with the added-in £58m for the Parliament House refit.
Budget spend on courts: 2007-2008: £79.4m, 2008-2009: £81.3m, 2009-2010: £94.7m, 2010-2011: £93.5m, 2011-2012: £79.9m, 2012-2013: £77.0m, 2013-2014: £72.3m, 2014-2015: £72.3m,2015-2016: £87.4m (includes missing £11.1m from courts group responsible for Judiciary), 2016-2017: £88.9m (includes missing £11.1m plus - from courts group responsible for Judiciary).
As you read these facts and figures, remember – this is about how public cash to the tune of half a billion pounds is spent by a group of the most powerful people in the land - who resist declaring their interests, how the judiciary operate, create umbrella institutions without accountability and outwith the scope of Freedom of Information laws, make policy on their own and operate without any oversight.
The existing lack of judicial transparency and accountability allows this to continue, unchecked and unchallenged.
There is a proposal to create a new layer of transparency and accountability to the judiciary as exists in all other areas of public life.
In an effort to bring greater transparency to Scotland’s judiciary - Petition PE1458: Register of Interests for members of Scotland's judiciary - first debated at the Scottish Parliament’s Public Petitions Committee in January 2013 – calls for the creation of a publicly available register of judicial interests – containing information on judges’ backgrounds, figures relating to personal wealth, undeclared earnings, business & family connections inside & outside of the legal profession, membership of organisations, property and land, offshore investments, hospitality, details on recusals and other information routinely lodged in registers of interest across all walks of public life in the UK and around the world.
A full debate on the proposal to require judges to declare their interests was held at the Scottish Parliament on 9 October 2014 - ending in a motion calling on the Scottish Government to create a register of judicial interests. The motion was overwhelmingly supported by MSPs from all political parties.
The proposal to create a register of interests for Scotland’s judges’ is also backed by the highly talented individuals who were appointed to provide oversight of judicial complaints – Scotland’s first Judicial Complaints Reviewer (JCR) – Moi Ali, and the current JCR – Gillian Thompson OBE.
The full transcript of evidence from former JCR Moi Ali to the Scottish Parliament during her term as Judicial Complaints Reviewer can be found here: Evidence from Scotland’s Judicial Complaints Reviewer Moi Ali to Public Petitions Committee on Petition 1458 Register of Interests for Scotland’s Judiciary, video footage of the hearing can be viewed here: JCR Moi Ali gives evidence to Scottish Parliament on a proposed Register of Judicial Interests.
Read the full report & transcript of JCR Gillian Thompson’s evidence to the Scottish Parliament’s Public Petitions Committee here: REGISTER, M’LORD: Former top judge Brian Gill called to Scottish Parliament as Judicial watchdog tells MSPs - Judges should declare their interests in public register.
JUDICIAL REGISTER: What interests are currently declared by Scottish judges?
The latest declarations by a select few powerful judges who control the running of Scotland’s Courts – is more revealing in what is missing from the limited disclosures in the 2016 annual report of Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service (SCTS).
Ruling over our courts in their ermine robes - in some cases decades longer than any Prime Minister could hope to remain in office – the handful of judicial declarations after years on the bench and millions in taxpayers cash - are even less than newly minted msps cobble together in their first few weeks at Holyrood.
Decades of near £200K taxpayer funded salaries produce singular declarations for a handful of judges, while the other 700 members of Scotland’s judiciary declare not one single item.
This year, Scotland’s current top judge, the Lord President & Lord Justice General - Lord Carloway – (real name Colin Sutherland), has but one declaration (Trustee, Scottish Arts Club) – dwarfing the vast listing of directorships & positions of his predecessor – Lord Brian Gill.
Lord Carloway (62) was appointed to the Court of Session since 2000. Sixteen years later, and now in the top job – his salary is currently listed in the UK Government guidance on judicial salaries as of 1 April 2016 as £222,862.00.
Another judicial member of the SCTS Board - Lady Smith (61) was appointed to the Court of Session in 2001. Fifteen years later, her salary as a judge of the inner house of the Court of Session is listed by the UK Government as £204, 695.00.
Lord Brian Gill (74) - appointed to the Court of Session in 1994, ‘retired’ from his judicial tenure in Scotland as Lord President 21 years later in June 2015 - on a salary of £220,665.00.
The full list of declarations for the few judges who declare ‘some’ of their interests are as follows:
Rt. Hon. Lord Gill: (from 1 April to 31 May 2015) Director of Scottish Redundant Churches Trust, a company limited by guarantee registered in Scotland (SC162884), Director of the Royal School of Church Music, a company limited by guarantee registered in England (Reg'd No 250031), President of the Royal Society for Home Relief to Incurable, Edinburgh, Trustee of the Columba Trust: a trust for the benefit of the Roman Catholic Church in Scotland, Trustee of the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland Endowment Trust: a trust for the benefit of RCS and its students, Trustee of the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland Trust: a trust for the benefit of the RCS and its students, Trustee of the Royal School of Church Music: a registered charity for the promotion of church music in the Christian Churches (Reg No 312828) Vice President of the Royal Conservatoire of Scotland, Chairman of Council, Royal School of Church Music
Rt. Hon. Lord Carloway: Trustee, Scottish Arts Club
Rt. Hon. Lady Smith: Chair and Trustee - Royal Scottish National Orchestra Foundation, President and Trustee - Friends of the Music of St Giles Cathedral, Honorary Bencher - Gray's Inn
Sheriff Principal Duncan Murray: Commissioner, Northern Lighthouse Board, Trustee Kibble Education and Care Centre
Sheriff Iona McDonald: Deputy Lieutenant for Ayrshire and Arran, Partner in property rental firm
Sheriff A Grant McCulloch: Chair West Fife Education Trust, Chair Relationship Scotland - Couple Counselling Fife, Committee Member Cammo Residents Association, Chair - Discipline Committee ICAS
Johan Findlay JP OBE Honorary Sheriff Justice of the Peace
Dr Joseph Morrow QC: Lord Lyon King of Arms, Member of Judicial Council, Trustee, Munday Trust, Dundee Trustee, Kidney Trust, Dundee Trustee, Tealing Community Hall Legal Assessor, South Episcopal Church President, Society of Messengers at Arms President, Scottish Genealogical Society Patron, Scottish Family History Society
Dr Kirsty J Hood QC: Self Employed Advocate Regular ad hoc employment with the University of Edinburgh – delivering seminars on one of the LLB courses, Regular ad hoc employment with the University of Glasgow - delivering lectures/seminars on one of the LLB courses, Contributor of updates to “Scottish Lawyers Factbook” (W Green. Publishers), Clerk of Faculty - Faculty of Advocates (non-remunerated) Member of the Scottish Committee of Franco-British Lawyers Society (non- remunerated)
Simon J D Catto: Member Gateley (Scotland) LLP: Head of Litigation, Member of Cornerstone Exchange LLP, Member of Cornerstone Exchange No2 LLP
Professor R Hugh MacDougall: None Eriska Trust, Cunningham Trust, Cross Trust, St Columba’s Hospice, Visiting Professor University of Edinburgh
Joe Al-Gharabally: Ernst & Young
Anthony McGrath: (from 1 April 2015 to 31 December 2015) Saltire Taverns Ltd, Consultation and mentoring assignment with Cantrell & Cochrane PLC. This includes sitting on the commercial Board of a subsidiary called The Shepton Mallet Cider Mill based in Somerset.
Col. David McIlroy: (from 1 January 2016) Independent Prison Monitor
Eric McQueen: Member of the Scottish Civil Justice Council
In August this year, DOI reported on the shareholdings of members of the same SCTS Board, in an article here: STILL BANKING, M’LORDS: Judicial quango in charge of Scotland’s Courts & Tribunals remains mired in financial links to Banks, investment funds, insurance, property & corporate vested interests
The current Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service Board Register of Shareholdings reveals the following declarations of shareholdings:
Lord President - Rt Hon Lord Carloway: None
Lord Justice Clerk - Rt Hon Lady Dorrian: None
President of Scottish Tribunals - Rt Hon Lady Smith: Artemis Fund Managers, Barclays, Blackrock AM, Brown Advisory, Goldman Sachs, Global Access, Henderson Investment, Ishares PLC, JP Morgan, Lazard Fund Managers, Pimco Global, Vanguard Funds PLC, Fundrock Management CO Gsquaretrix.
Sheriff Principal Duncan L Murray: None
Sheriff Iona McDonald: None
Sheriff A Grant McCulloch: None
Johan Findlay OBE JP: Aviva, Vodaphone, Santander, Unilever, Norwich Union, Legal & General, Fidelity Funds Network, Lloyds Banking Group, Thus Group, HBOS, Trafficmaster, Standard Life.
Dr Joseph Morrow QC: None
Lord President – Rt Hon Lord Gill (note: Lord Gill retired on 31 May 2015 and was succeed by Lord Carloway). :Henderson UK Growth Fund Retail Class Acc, Newton Global Equity Fund, Aviva Investors UK Equity Fund, Scottish Widows UK Growth Sub-Fund, HSBC Balanced Fund (Retail Acc), Royal Mail Plc, TSB Group Plc, Urban and Civil Plc, Vestry Court Ltd.
Previous articles on the lack of transparency within Scotland’s judiciary, investigations by Diary of Injustice including reports from the media, and video footage of debates at the Scottish Parliament’s Public Petitions Committee can be found here : A Register of Interests for Scotland's Judiciary.
Not only should there be a register of interests for all judges there must also be an investigation on how they were able to escape registering their interests until now.
ReplyDeleteGood work Peter.
When are our msps going to pass this into law instead of waiting while judges lift an extra billion from us?
ReplyDelete£471 million is a big chunk of public cash and one most certainly requiring judicial declarations.
ReplyDeleteHow will Carloway gloss over this one when he pitches up at the petitions committee? Good value for money? I dont think so.
Anyone on a public salary must be required to declare their interests as simple as that.Judges are no different if anything they should be the first to declare interests.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the figures judges have picked up £250 million approx since msps have been looking at your petition.
ReplyDeletePerhaps a good incentive to go ahead and make a law requiring judges register their interests!
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ReplyDeleteAccording to the figures judges have picked up £250 million approx since msps have been looking at your petition.
Perhaps a good incentive to go ahead and make a law requiring judges register their interests!
11 November 2016 at 14:58
obviously one of the reasons Gill and the angry judge crowd are delaying this register
There is no other group in society who are allowed such a privilege of secrecy - while benefiting directly from billions of pounds in public cash.
ReplyDeleteExactly.A disgrace to our democracy.
Thankfully returned to covering the judiciary.Much more exciting revelations considering the judiciary are the ones in charge of the legal system.
ReplyDeleteYes you are correct Peter there is no excuse for not having a register of interests for judges especially with the huge amounts of money they are paid and still refuse to declare anything obviously they are hiding what they have because there are conflicts otherwise their interest would be all out in the open.Keep up the good work!
ReplyDeleteLet there be no doubt now about judges and their lack of declarations.
ReplyDeleteLook at the salaries for all these years and nothing to declare.This makes no sense to the point of dishonesty.
Something else for Lord Carloway to complain about now everyone knows what judges are being paid from PUBLIC FUNDS!!
ReplyDeleteYour attention to detail is to be congratulated, I spent as long reading all the links as I did the main article!
ReplyDeleteSuffice to say I agree with the comments there should be a register of judges interests and alongside their names should be their public salaries and other entitlements.
Fair's fair.They insist the same disclosure for the public who pay their salaries so apply the same disclosures to the judiciary.
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ReplyDeleteSomething else for Lord Carloway to complain about now everyone knows what judges are being paid from PUBLIC FUNDS!!
11 November 2016 at 17:22
The judge is obviously very touchy about his interests and will be just as touchy about everyone knowing their salaries and pensions and all the junkets they take on the pretext of learning about justice when they have been a judge for twenty odd years
Dont worry about hospitals doctors and nurses says Nicola Sturgeon and her legal friends instead give all the cash to judges lawyers courts and robbers
ReplyDeleteScrap schools and teachers first because your children's education is not as important as judges getting a fat paycheck of £471 million quid helped by Nicola Sturgeon taking away £300 million from schools and gave it all to lawyers judges and legal nuts.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/12132556/300-million-cut-to-Scotlands-schools-after-SNP-targets-councils.html
£300 million cut to Scotland's schools after SNP targets councils
A new report finds local authorities have cut school budgets by seven per cent more than inflation over the past five years, in response to reductions in their funding from the Scottish Government.
Scotland’s schools have made £300 million of cuts over the past five years thanks to the SNP’s squeeze on council budgets, according to a report warning that local authorities are facing a large black hole in their finances.
The Local Government Benchmarking Framework, which reports on council performance, said education spending was cut by seven per cent more than inflation between 2010/11 and last year.
This reduction of £300.6 million dwarfs the additional £100 million Nicola Sturgeon has pledged to spend closing the gulf in performance between the best and worst state schools.
Budget spend on judiciary: 2007-2008: £41.8m, 2008-2009: £44.3m, 2009-2010: £46.3m, 2010-2011: £51.1m, 2011-2012: £50.0m,2012-2013: £52.4m, 2013-2014:£52.1m,2014-2015: £51.6m, 2015-2016: £40.5m (missing £11.1 switched to SCTS budget), 2016-2017: £40.5m (missing £11.1 plus - switched to SCTS budget)
ReplyDeleteThe last two entries bear a remarkable resemblance to cooking the books as in enabling a Scottish Minister to claim a reduction in one budget entry while in reality was switched to another.
Good to see someone keeping tabs on this bunch of wasters.
Dont bother dialing 999 if you have a fire because Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP Gov cut 1000 jobs from the fire service to save a few quid and guess where the £42.7 million went!
ReplyDeleteIf you have a fire now you can call a gang of elderly blokes who call themselves judges and dress in weird robes who will I am sure be able to manage fire hoses and a ladder to save your house NOT!
Funny how everything in Scotland is cut cut cut but judges legal aid courts and lawyers! Anyone finally getting the picture?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/701839/Firemen-fury-1000-jobs-Scotland-lost-safety-fears-wake-SNP-shake-up-cuts
Firemen fury as 1,000 Scots jobs go: Safety fears in wake of SNP shake-up
MORE than 1,000 jobs have been lost at Scotland’s fire service over the last three years, sparking safety fears for staff and the public.
By Tom Martin Fri, Aug 19, 2016
Official statistics show numbers fell from 8,964 when the country’s eight brigades were merged in 2013 to 7,933 this year.
It includes almost 700 frontline posts. Unions have warned that fire engines are “routinely” unavailable because of a shortage of crew.
The Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (SFRS) will launch a recruitment drive later this year as a “significant” number of 999 workers approach retirement.
There have already been safety concerns raised with the closure of control rooms across the country in a cost-cutting drive.
The figures also revealed around 300 support and control staff have been axed since the creation of the single service.
Opposition MSPs urged the Scottish Government to ensure emergency staff “have the resources to do their jobs”.
Ex-Finance Secretary John Swinney cut SFRS funding by £15 million to £295 million in his last Budget.
And watchdog Audit Scotland has warned it faces £42.7million black hole by 2019/20 because of the prospect of further cuts and rising costs due to inflation.
There have been safety concerns raised with the closure of control rooms across the country
GET THIS! Court workers go on strike for MORE MONEY and now we find out they took £885 MILLION since 2008!!!HOW MUCH MONEY DO THEY NEED TO RUN COURTS!!
ReplyDeleteSturgeon is slashing the country to bits to pay for her courts lawyers judges and legal nut chums!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-30987947
Court and prison staff in PCS union strike over pay
26 January 2015
Court staff and prison workers are on strike in Scotland in a dispute over pay.
The 24-hour industrial action involves members of the Public and Commercial Services (PCS) union.
Picket lines formed outside several buildings as the strike got under way.
The Scottish Court Service (SCS) said some courts may be affected, while the Scottish Prison Service (SPS) said it did not expect any major disruption to normal prison regimes.
Staff are unhappy with their current conditions and have claimed they are working more for less pay as staff who leave are not replaced.
The PCS is seeking a 5%, or £1,200, pay increase for public-sector workers, citing price rises of 16% and real-term pay cuts since the financial crisis.
The union said its members working for the Scottish Court Service (SCS) were working under enormous pressure to deliver services with fewer resources and with "little or no reward for their hard work".
It highlighted concerns about additional workloads at the Scottish Prison Service (SPS) as it undergoes an organisational review.
The strike also involves PCS members working for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service (COPFS) and the Risk Management Authority.
It is the final walkout of a two-month rolling programme of industrial action by the PCS across the Scottish devolved governance sector.
An estimated 28% of SCS staff (about 435 people) were taking part in the industrial action compared with about 26% during similar action in July last year.
A SCS spokesman said: "No courts are closed today although some business has been adjourned to allow essential business to proceed in the Supreme Courts, Sheriff Courts and Justice of the Peace Courts.
"Some courts are offering a limited service and there is no public counter service being provided at Stornoway, Glasgow, Greenock, Kilmarnock, Airdrie, Ayr, Lanark and Alloa.
"Despite the level of staff taking part in industrial action at some locations, the joint planning with justice partners will ensure that no cases are lost due to industrial action."
The PCS union said it expected about 2,000 members to take part in Monday's action.
It said picket lines formed outside courts in Glasgow and Edinburgh as well as several prisons including Shotts, Polmont Young Offenders' Institution and Barlinnie.
A spokesman said: "We've had excellent support, with reports that new activists joined the picket lines for today's action.
"We are delighted to get such strong support on what is the last day of this tranche of action. They have shown that they are not prepared to accept the current deal."
An SPS spokesman said: "We do not anticipate any major disruption to normal prison regimes."
The Scottish government said it was committed to working with the PCS and other trade unions to address the challenges presented by the current financial climate.
Love your intro.Really slams on the facts against the judicial mafia.
ReplyDelete"THEY HAVE the power to strike down legislation from our elected Scottish Parliament, enact their own versions of the law with Acts of Sederunt, suspend your liberty, and dodge questions on their activities - yet figures reveal Scotland’s secretive judicial elite who control our courts – have received a staggering £471 million of public cash for salaries and judicial related ‘activities’ since the financial crash of 2008.
Judges on up to £230K a year - some holding judicial posts for well over twenty years, have also directly benefited from a massive £885 million of public cash thrown at Scotland's courts since 2008 - including a £58 million taxpayer funded refit of Parliament House – the headquarters of Scotland's current Lord President & Lord Justice General - Lord Carloway."
Anyone who earns £471million of public money has no right to refuse to declare their interests.End of debate.Msps on the petitions committee know this full well.Get on with it and make this register law.
ReplyDeleteScotland running a £15 billion deficit under Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP giving an extra £2 billion to legal the courts and a half a billion to the judiciary no wonder Scotland is bankrupt without oil and Lord Gill wanted to take all the oil profits I read in your article on the speech he gave about fracking Scotland http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2015/02/fracking-judges-scotlands-top-judge.html
ReplyDeleteSpeaking on the issue of fracking, Gill said: “Our resources of energy may be increased by the retrieval of shale gas, if that should be allowed. It seems to me therefore that the opportunity that our natural resources present should be served by the court system.”
Gill said "Our legal system should be a driver for economic progress in Scotland. Our courts and our judges can and should contribute to the prosperity of our country. We can do that if, by the excellence of our judges, and our legal profession and the efficiency of our courts, we make Scotland a forum of litigation that not only retains litigations that at present go elsewhere but also becomes a forum of choice for litigations from abroad.."
Obviously Gill wants to frack the country for money not under his house or precious court of session!
£15 billion deficit story from bbc
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-37167975
Gers figures: Scottish economy deficit almost £15bn
24 August 2016
Scotland's public spending deficit stood at just under £15bn in the past financial year amid plummeting oil revenues.
Official Scottish government statistics showed the country spent £14.8bn more than it raised in taxes in 2015/16, including a share of North Sea revenue.
That figure represented a 9.5% share of GDP, the report said - more than double the 4% figure for the UK as a whole.
Revised figures for the previous year put the Scottish deficit at £14.3bn.
The UK's spending deficit is £75.3bn.
The Government Expenditure and Revenue Scotland (Gers) figures estimated that Scotland's share of North Sea revenues fell by about 97% from £1.8bn in 2014/15 to £60m last year, reflecting a decline in total UK North Sea revenue.
But this fall was offset by Scotland's onshore revenues growing by £1.9bn.
Overall, Scottish public sector revenue was estimated as £53.7bn - the equivalent of £10,000 per person, and about £400 per person lower than for the UK as a whole.
Scotland's public expenditure 2015-16 £68.6bn
Total spend
£23.6bn Social protection
£12.2bn Health
£7.9bn Education
£2.8bn Policing
GERS 2015-16
Meanwhile, total expenditure by the public sector was £68.6bn.
This was equivalent to 9.1% of total UK public sector expenditure, and £12,800 per person - which is £1,200 per person greater than the UK average.
£471m alright for some eh
ReplyDeleteno wonder old Gill blew a gasket when Jackson Carlaw and the msps asked him why judges dont declare their interests http://petercherbi.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/judge-another-day-sparks-fly-as-top.html
I wondered why the Bar Council Law Society and other instruments of the legal industry were attacking the Daily Mail last week over their brexit judge headlines.
ReplyDeleteNow I realise the whole thing is not about judicial independence more like about the vast pot of money this lot are taking from the public purse.
Makes sense really if you think about it.No one goes to the trouble of putting their name and life on the line for anything now unless there is money or gain connected to it and here we go billions handed over to judges by the Scottish state the figures must be just as vast in England and Wales so this is all about money not really about independence of the judiciary and lawyers trying to force newspapers to cow tow to court rulings without being able to criticise.
Great picture tallies it all up no one should be in any doubt now we have a judiciary gorging on the taxpayer ticket!
ReplyDeleteHave to confess I did not know Scotland has around 715 judges on the go.A mafia gang in their own right.715 members my goodness the Lord President has a small army to bully us into submission.
ReplyDeleteThis is a higher factual figure than the Lord Advocate's PR nonsense about 10 million Crime Gangs roaming our streets with dodgy counterfeit merchandise.Maybe COPFS should get in there and start arresting the real crime gang on the bench or do they need the judges on side to help prevent their own fiscals being arrested for dealing drugs?
Why exactly are msps holding this up? Surely the figures are enough to act on and initiate the register.
ReplyDeleteYou cannot have anyone no matter who they are earning such high public salaries without proper declarations and registers of interest.
The whole thing is just abhorrent and must be put right.
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ReplyDeleteYes you are correct Peter there is no excuse for not having a register of interests for judges especially with the huge amounts of money they are paid and still refuse to declare anything obviously they are hiding what they have because there are conflicts otherwise their interest would be all out in the open.Keep up the good work!
11 November 2016 at 16:33
Agree with what you say!
You upset someone in the JO earlier today..
ReplyDeletehttp://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13107463.Scotland_s_top_judge_snubs_Holyrood_inquiry_into_register_of_interests/
ReplyDeleteScotland's top judge snubs Holyrood inquiry into register of interests
1 Jun 2013 / Paul Hutcheon , Investigations Editor
THE head of Scotland's judiciary has sparked a constitutional turf war with the Scottish Parliament by twice refusing to give evidence to a controversial inquiry into judges' finances.
The Lord President, Lord Gill, snubbed Holyrood on the grounds of "constitutional principle", despite agreeing to appear at another parliamentary committee debate this week on court structures.
MSPs have described the rejection as "disappointing", an "insult" and smelling of "vested interests".
Legal campaigner Peter Cherbi last year lodged a petition at Holyrood calling for the members of the judiciary to declare their financial interests and any hospitality received. He argued that this could "provide greater transparency within the judicial system" and avoid conflicts of interest.
Such a register could require judges to declare shareholdings and property ownership.
A range of public servants, including MPs, MSPs and quango board members, already have to file to a register of interests.
In the course of considering the proposal, Gill, who became Lord President last year, wrote to the Petitions Committee that a register was "unnecessary".
He said there were "sufficient safeguards" to ensure judicial impartiality and argued that judges' privacy could be affected by "aggressive media or hostile individuals".
He concluded: "The establishment of such a register therefore may have the unintended consequence of eroding public confidence in the judiciary."
In March, the committee asked the Lord President to give oral evidence but he declined, saying that he could "not add any material points" to his written response. Weeks later, the committee's convener, Labour MSP David Stewart, asked Gill a second time to appear, suggesting that his evidence would help the inquiry.
However, Gill again refused. He wrote that he intended "no discourtesy" and noted that judges had in the past given evidence to Holyrood committees. But he argued that participation must "be kept within prudent limits".
And he cited a section of the Scotland Act 1998 – the legislation that lays down the Parliament's powers – which states that judges may not be required to give evidence.
He wrote: "This is not a loophole. It is a necessary part of the constitutional settlement by which the Parliament is established. Its purpose is to protect the independence of the judiciary."
Gill said he was open to a meeting with the committee convener about the implications of his invitation, rather than to discuss the petition.
However, he has agreed to give oral evidence to the Justice Committee on Tuesday on proposals to shake up the court system. Last year, he also gave evidence to that committee about legislation on civil justice.
Part 2 with the Jackson Carlaw quote.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13107463.Scotland_s_top_judge_snubs_Holyrood_inquiry_into_register_of_interests/
According to Section 23 of the Scotland Act, Holyrood may require "any person" to attend its proceedings for the purpose of giving evidence. However, this legal power cannot be "imposed" on a judge.
At a meeting of the Petitions Committee, Conservative MSP Jackson Carlaw said: "The student anarchist in me smells the whiff of vested interests closing doors and turning their backs in an effort to shut the matter down. In fact, the protest was so great that I found myself thinking, 'Methinks the Lord President doth protest too much'."
The Cherbi proposal is partly motivated by the Parliament of New Zealand debating a register of judges' financial interests. In 2010, a former Supreme Court judge in New Zealand resigned after he failed to disclose a debt owed to a solicitor who appeared in one of his cases.
SNP MSP Chic Brodie, deputy convener of the Petitions Committee, said: "It's regrettable that Lord Gill feels he cannot discuss the register of interest issue, but at least there is an opportunity for a meeting."
A spokesperson for the Judicial Office for Scotland declined to comment.
plenty big banks up to no good in those declarations bet they or their arms length companies with multiple different names are given a free pass in the court of session!
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ReplyDeleteWhy exactly are msps holding this up? Surely the figures are enough to act on and initiate the register.
You cannot have anyone no matter who they are earning such high public salaries without proper declarations and registers of interest.
The whole thing is just abhorrent and must be put right.
11 November 2016 at 21:34
One has to wonder given the sums of money involved!
£471 million almost same price paid for the construction of the Scottish Parliament.
ReplyDeleteSo msps how about doing the business like everyone (except vested legal interests] is saying make this register law and make sure the rules are not written by the same judges who declare into the register.
Is this a court or a bank?
ReplyDeleteSounds like a bank to me.Bankers dont like disclosing their bonuses now you have judges determined not to disclose their interests.
Good comments I like how this plays out it was Sturgeon and Salmond who gave this £2.5 billion to the courts the judiciary and legal aid so no one else to blame but them.I saw an article in the sidebar on the blog about Sturgeon going against your petition.Now we know why.This is all about concealment of the judiciary's money and assets from public view.Already said above you cannot have public servants taking billions in salaries and refusing to register their interests.Completely unacceptable and we all know it.
ReplyDeleteBeing a judge is little more than a pocket lining exercise and very far from the high morals crap we heard in the last week after the press had a go at judges.If they had such high morals they wouldnt be going so hard against your petition.
ReplyDeleteEmotive brexit headlines in some newspapers aside,the considerable sums of public money referred to in your article make a register essential if the judiciary are to be trusted.
ReplyDeleteIf Lord President Carloway persists in secrecy must be guaranteed arguments in the face of such information the Scottish Parliament must now proceed with legislation without further delay.
Taking into account some comments I trust your readers are now aware the Scottish Government stripped funding of many other key public services while public spending on judges courts and related increased well above inflation while most people outside the justice system are under considerable financial pain and suffering.Food for thought next time you read an article praising solicitors and the work of a 'world respected' (reality - multi billion pound) judiciary.
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ReplyDeleteThe Bar Council,Law Society and other ahem lawyers and qcs posing as journalists do their pr part to promote the legal profession.Most judges in England are former barristers therefore the Bar Council has a clear vested interest in attacking any adverse media coverage of the judiciary,similar applies to the Law Society in England,Law Society of Scotland and Faculty of Advocates.
Think more of the past week as an attack on free press by lawyers and an exercise in protecting the slice of the public purse taken by the legal services sector rather than an impartial defence of the judiciary who appear to be well able to defend themselves.
Your register of interests idea should be applied nationwide regardless of the judiciary's attitude.The figures alone demonstrate a need for transparency.
Excellent post Mr Cherbi puts the whole issue of judicial non declarations in perspective.
ReplyDeleteHow can anyone support a judiciary who want their interests to remain secret while taking billions of pounds from taxpayers this is not fair not equal treatment and clearly promotes dangerous liaisons between judges banks and other big business.
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Four years of opposition from the judiciary to your petition as they pick up an extra £250 million from the public purse.I'd say this qualifies as good a reason as any to create a register of interests for judges.Also well done on your blog Peter while I speak for myself I am sure others feel the same way and trust your efforts over the years to keep us informed of the truth about our nefarious legal establishment.Keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteJUDICIAL REGISTER: Figures reveal Scotland’s judges received £471million since 2008 financial crash, benefit from extra £2billion on courts & legal aid - yet declare no wealth, assets or interests.
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Nothing shocking about this, indeed this is the tip of a massive iceberg. Secrecy is their greatest asset and clearly they have even more to hide. But what is shocking is the power these people have over members of the public when that power is embedded in secrecy. In my opinion they are all crooks protected by a system more crooked than themselves if such a thing is possible. They could even embezzle billions of pounds because they are their own judges and juries, no separation of powers here.
These people think they are too important to be questioned with their heads stuck so far up their behinds.
ReplyDeleteI will tell you one thing Peter this lot must be cursing Penman and the Law Society for what they did to you and your family, utter scumbags the lot of them. They make crime legal and it must be stopped.
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ReplyDeleteGood comments I like how this plays out it was Sturgeon and Salmond who gave this £2.5 billion to the courts the judiciary and legal aid so no one else to blame but them.I saw an article in the sidebar on the blog about Sturgeon going against your petition.Now we know why.This is all about concealment of the judiciary's money and assets from public view.Already said above you cannot have public servants taking billions in salaries and refusing to register their interests.Completely unacceptable and we all know it.
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Yes those two are Scotland's enemies and many don't realize it. Cannot stand any of them.
The only people I trust regarding these crooks are the journalists at A Diary of Injustice. These Judges are unaccountable parasites with horrific power.
ReplyDeleteAs I recall an earlier report on DOI quoting a European Report confirmed that Scottish Judges were among if not the highest paid judges in Europe.
ReplyDeleteIf anyone can explain to me why this this should be given the notorious backlogs of the Court of Session and the judges frequent trips abroad (at our additional expense) I would be very grateful.
judges are out of control on spending and their declarations I support your petition!
ReplyDeleteGreat lil blog!The subjects you write about judges and attorneys equally apply here in the US or anywhere else!
ReplyDeleteWrong Mr Gill the "sufficient safeguards" you refer to protect you and your colleagues and are not sufficient. It beggars belief you come out with such nonsense buy of course the judiciary have a hell of a lot to hide.
ReplyDeleteThe money angle explains the whole thing 471 million reasons why Lord NoNo and his gang are so hostile to registering their interests
ReplyDeleteShocking that judges picked up £250 million while your petition is being investigated!
ReplyDeleteI support any call to ask msps to consider making this law now because we now know enough to know judges must declare like everyone else.
Good to see a genuine debate involving the administration of the judiciary and I do wish you success for your petition given the now obvious requirement for a register of interests.
ReplyDeleteCoincidentally in the same time frame not one banker has ever been jailed for events leading to the Financial crash and you can see why in the few declarations available - the judges are shareholders in the same banks along with many other judges who do not declare for fear of revealing they are in with the same bankers who took all our money.
ReplyDeleteBest of all you sourced the figures from their own books so they have to admit the £471m and extra 2 billion.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest from reading your blog I suspect the figures are much higher as the 'budget' appears to be little more than a public relations exercise to present financial control where there is none.
Good work Peter as always!
This is the kind of thing anyone just supposes goes on until you start reading about it and find out the judiciary refuse to register their interests because of all the money sloshing around.Well they are paid enough so they should be made to register like everyone else.
ReplyDeleteHi Peter first time I read your blog after a work colleague sent me the link I like what I am reading good to see so-called pillars of the establishment exposed in their true light.Best wishes for success with your petition.
ReplyDeleteNo special excuse for judges to escape registers of interest make this petition law you msps!
ReplyDeleteincredible they got away with it so long!
ReplyDeleteHow can anyone expect a fair hearing in courts when all the judges have shares in banks and companies thriving off people in debt and misery?
ReplyDeleteThis is just not on there should be a register of interests for all judges not just the ones who declare in the register you published.
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ReplyDelete£471 million is a big chunk of public cash and one most certainly requiring judicial declarations.
How will Carloway gloss over this one when he pitches up at the petitions committee? Good value for money? I dont think so.
11 November 2016 at 13:50
eager to see his testimony..
Suffice to say the figures quoted are good enough reason for judges to register their interests however if I may add msps will be well aware of the cost of the judiciary so why have they not acted on this particular petition?
ReplyDeleteThis is a large slice of public money and people rightly expect anyone on such salary scales to register and declare all their interests.
Bankers and judges in the same financial pot this cannot be when at the same time our courts are clogged up with banks repossessing half the country.
ReplyDeleteTo the judiciary - Do some good for a change and don't wait for the petition.Register your interests and gain some respect for doing so.