Lawyers cant count, but they sure can steal, says legal aid board insider. A STAGGERING CLAIM that anywhere up to 10% of the ONE HUNDRED & FORTY ONE MILLION POUND annual budget of the Scottish Legal Aid Board (SLAB), equivalent to FOURTEEN MILLION POUNDS a year is being lost to fraudulent claims made predominantly by solicitors & law firms across Scotland has surfaced as a result of enquiries by Diary of Injustice journalists into vast lists of legal aid claims made by lawyers in connection with their work on civil and even criminal cases which are in some cases, taking up to five times longer to settle than would normally be expected, or in an exponentially growing number of cases, particularly civil damages claims, the cases “seem to be going on forever”, in some cases, taking several years to resolve, or simply be closed without a result even though vast sums of legal aid has been claimed for case work.
The claims of massive legal aid fraud in Scotland, which insiders at the Scottish Legal Aid Board say is so organised & so complicated it is overwhelming SLAB’s investigation teams, sprang to light after Diary of Injustice began inquiries into massive legal aid claims made by Kilmarnock solicitor & sole practitioner NIELS LOCKHART, who managed to rake in around SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND POUNDS of taxpayer funded legal aid in an unbelievable two years and escaped any prosecution after SLAB officials accused him of making dodgy claims, reported here : One law for lawyers : Secret Report reveals Legal Aid Board, Law Society & Legal Defence Union ‘cosy relationship’ in Lockhart case
The scale of the legal aid fraud problem in Scotland has reached epic proportions, insiders claim, due in part to the recession where many law firms are experiencing such a drop in business, they have turned to what some have dubbed “organised theft” where clients are virtually being pulled off the street, asked if they have anything wrong with them, if they want to make a damages claim against anyone from local authorities to their doctors, and even including their neighbours.
In some of the cases allegedly under investigation, Diary of Injustice has been told by insiders it also appears some law firms in localised areas around Scotland have grouped together to cover each other’s fraudulent legal aid claims in attempts to prevent the Legal Aid Board’s audit & compliance teams from discovering the truth.
However, it appears some at the Law Society of Scotland have noticed the growing trend of media investigations into legal aid, and, amid fears the investigations & bad publicity would spark further difficult questions over where exactly the publicly funded legal aid was going, and how it was being used, new policies & projects were being put in place by Law Society officials to deal with the legal aid issue, which is now seen as key funding to keep many law firms afloat.
One of the ‘new projects’ to target legal aid funds, which appears to have been backed by the Law Society of Scotland, hit the buffers after many of the Law Society’s own member solicitors objected to the remit of the private company formed to handle legal aid payments, accusing the company, ESTO LAW Ltd, which was formed by members of the Law Society of Scotland’s very own legal aid negotiating team, as little more than “a legal firm created to siphon off public cash”
The five directors of ESTO LAW Ltd were John Scott QC (Edinburgh), Ian Bryce (Livingston), Ken Dalling (Stirling), Vincent McGovern (Hamilton) and Stuart Munro (Glasgow). The other directors are Neil Robertson, a partner of Ian Bryce, and John Keenan, a partner of John Scott.
The Law Society of Scotland’s journal reported that ESTO was to offer defence solicitors liable to be called out to police stations at any hour, a means of outsourcing this work without losing the client for any subsequent proceedings. It undertakes that its role will conclude once the police station work has been reported on to the instructing solicitor and to the Scottish Legal Aid Board. "This should relieve you of the pressure of providing out of hours advice, while offering reassurance that your clients are being well advised and will not be lost to you", its launch document promises. In the same article, the journal also reported that ESTO’s directors had “denied making improper use of information gained in negotiations with the legal aid authorities.”
A SLAB insider described the ESTO Law debacle as another attempt by the Law Society to retake control of the legal aid issue which floundered “… after some lawyers finally twigged where their money would be going, as in not to them!”.
However, when Diary of Injustice asked SLAB to release information regarding dealings between the directors of ESTO LAW Ltd and the Legal Aid Board, little by way of usable information was produced, with SLAB bizarrely claiming it would be “a criminal offence to supply the information” after one of the ESTO LAW Ltd directors objected to public disclosure, even though the discussions surrounded negotiations which would have involved vast sums of public money.
The Scottish Legal Aid Board said in its FOI response : I can confirm that the Board does hold information contained in documents which were received from Esto Law Ltd about the services/proposed services offered by Esto Law Ltd. However, we consider that we are exempt from disclosing the information because the following exemption applies: Section 26 of the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002 – disclosure of the information is prohibited, for example, under an enactment.
We consider that this exemption applies because Section 34 of Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 1986 prevents Board employees from disclosing this information without the consent of the applicant/person who supplied the information. It would be a criminal offence to supply information in breach of this provision. We contacted the director of Esto who supplied us with various information in emails regarding the services being offered by Esto and asked for his permission to disclose this information to you. The Esto director confirmed to us that he did not consent to the disclosure of the materials in these e-mails.
However, I can advise that two meetings were held between staff from the Board and representatives of Esto Law Ltd on 8 November 2011 and 23 November 2011 to have initial discussions with a view to ensuring that their proposals met the Board’s requirements for the operation of the Police Station Duty scheme, and our requirements for the registration of firms and connected solicitors. No formal applications for registration had been made at that stage. We would expect any new private firm proposing to deliver a new service such as that proposed by Esto to have discussions with us to ensure that their proposals fully met all our requirements. At no stage did we advise that any special arrangements could or would be made for Esto Ltd. No minutes were taken of these meetings.
Emails between Board staff to an Esto director about the proposed services to be provided by Esto were also disclosed, showing cosy chats between the former Law Society Legal Aid Negotiating Team and SLAB officials :
From: Kingsley Thomas, SLAB Manager of Criminal Legal Assistance
To: Vincent McGovern, Esto 23 November 2011 19:41
Following our meeting this afternoon, I have enclosed a copy of the current detention advice that our Contact Line solicitors are using to record the details of all the calls we receive from the police where a suspect requires advice, either from a named solicitor, a Contact Line solicitor, or a duty solicitor. As I mentioned today, we are currently revising this form, and introducing a new separate form for personal attendances that we do. When the new form is finalised, I’ll let you see this.
I can confirm that we will also give some more thought to the question of ESTO being on the duty plans to allow A&A to be provided.
From: Colin Lancaster, SLAB Director of Policy
To: Vincent McGovern, ESTO 9 December 2011 17:13
Thanks for this. It seems to be a draft of the agreement between esto and the client firms, rather than esto’s contract with the esto lawyers. While it’s good to see clarification of the A&A arrangements etc as between esto and client firms, I think the other contract would be the thing we would be keen to see so that we can be clear about the nature of the connection between the esto lawyers and esto, from a compliance and registration perspective. If you are in a position to send us that document, we’d be happy to look at it.
A solicitor speaking to Diary of Injustice tonight ‘hit the roof’ over the disclosures, alleging SLAB & the Law Society appear to have some dark secrets worthy of exposing on how ESTO LAW came about and what its motives were.
He said :“We need to get to the bottom of what was going on with Esto Law and the Law Society. What little has been published appears to indicate there is far too close a relationship with the Scottish Legal Aid Board and the Law Society of Scotland which is not in the public interest when it comes to legal aid matters.”
After many solicitors complained about the ESTO LAW Ltd move to grab legal aid cash, it appears the firm folded and the directors resigned, leaving the Law Society of Scotland to pick up the pieces.
Currently, the Law Society is investigating the issue, however the Glasgow Bar Association have posted an account of a meeting with the Law Society over the ESTO LAW debacle on their website, HERE which appears to indicate the Law Society are as bad at investigating their own fit ups, as they are investigating the likes of solicitors who make off with hundreds of thousands of pounds in legal aid claims each year.
FUCK and everyone is worried about Stephen Hester's £1m bonus?????
ReplyDeleteSo how come its okay for a lawyer to steal millions from us with sweet fuck all being done about it but we get 10 feet bloody tall headlines about a bloody banker and none about the thieving lawyers?
Why are the Govt not on the chat shows demanding all this stolen legal aid be handed back??
Well put it this way - if one sole lawyer is walking off the job with £600,000 in two years its not too difficult to get to the 14 million and probably surpass it if you look at how many lawyers there are in Scotland.
ReplyDeleteWhat is it? 10,000 or so the Law Society keep telling us?That's a hell of a lot of legal aid fraud possibilities..so no wonder they dont want to release information to you.
Keep on digging Peter you are onto a winner here,just think of all the millions every year going down the tubes in fraud and nobody is able to stop it or oddly enough able to write about it until you did.Now this is very odd!
Ha!
ReplyDeleteThe LSoS' attempt to corner the legal aid market seems to have backfired !
Someone at slab will be having a heart attack in the morning when they read this because it sounds like you've spilled some big investigations.Anyway since I've already read your stuff about Lockhart I know they took years to look into him and got nowhere so only fair you blow the lot out now.Good work and I presume you didnt need to hack anyone?
ReplyDelete10% is a bit high but you've convinced me with the Lockhart stuff and the other 14 who must have taken a few million between them..
ReplyDeleteIts always the same these one man companies basically doing as they please and no one thinks to watch them just imagine how the 600k translates into 10,000 solicitors!My god its millions running out the back door every year and all the Law Society/SLAB can do is have meetings devoid of any records on how to quarter up the legal aid between them.Astounding.
ReplyDeleteI hope you are demanding an investigation into the information refusal!
£141 million is a crazy figure for legal aid in Scotland and you can never get into a court anyway.What kind of work are these lawyers doing to be paid such money yet they keep telling us they cant get into court but they can write millions of letters and probably charge them to legal aid and have fake meetings with fake clients etc what a rip off
ReplyDelete"Currently the Law Society is investigating the issue" - this has to be a joke
ReplyDelete"At no stage did we advise that any special arrangements could or would be made for Esto Ltd. No minutes were taken of these meetings"
ReplyDeleteCOVER UP
Hmm
ReplyDeleteLaw firms working together to defraud the Scottish Legal Aid Board.
Why should this be a surprise to anyone and why has it taken SLAB so long to catch on?
Legal Aid is effectively a state subsidy for lawyers.End it.
A public body receiving £150m a year from the public holds meetings with lawyers and they deliberately keep no records of the meetings.
ReplyDeleteWhy do we allow this?
Try to get Legal Aid to sue a solicitor, more chance of winning the Lottery.
ReplyDeleteRegardless of your financial situation, there will be a tremendous effort made to make sure your application for Legal Aid fails, or maybe try Mr Lockhart !!!!
So if I understand this correctly all SLAB are doing now is running a lottery for the lawyers to plunder with money contributed by us.
ReplyDeleteNOT VERY ******* FAIR IS IT
10% is a bit high but you've convinced me with the Lockhart stuff and the other 14 who must have taken a few million between them..
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On the contrary, I believe that the true figure is much higher, between 30-40% of the total figure.
The reason for my estimate is clear.
Scottish lawyers have known for many years that this is a crime they can commit in the knowledge that they will not be found guilty.
The SLAB monies and fraud thereof is exactly the same as the Westminster Parliament expenses scandal.
The Scottish lawyers have taken it as their 'right' to hook this money 'as part of their salary' and it's because the Police have not been allowed to interfere into this cosy relationship that it keeps getting worse year on year.
I wonder how much money this would equate to over the past 10 years?
A Scottish Parliament's worth?
The Crown Office's bonus scheme was a similar cash grab, which the Scottish Public were not supposed to know about?
"In some of the cases allegedly under investigation, Diary of Injustice has been told by insiders it also appears some law firms in localised areas around Scotland have grouped together to cover each other’s fraudulent legal aid claims in attempts to prevent the Legal Aid Board’s audit & compliance teams from discovering the truth."
ReplyDeleteThis fact alone is why legal aid should now be banned.These lawyers are just ripping us all off and disguising it as "access to justice" rubbish.
If the Scottish Legal Aid Board keep on turning a blind eye and putting in a half hearted effort to find these crooked Scottish lawyers guilty, to make it look like they are doing the bare minimum to avoid prosecution.
ReplyDeleteWell I am sorry, they are just as guilty as the fraudulent crooked Scottish lawyers and are facilitating crime.
Police in.
Seize all computers and files.
And shut them down until someone is in place who has the Scottish Public's interest as their first priority.
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ReplyDeleteWhat a bloody carve-up. Nobody is watching out for the public funds when there is a lawyer with his snout in the trough.
ReplyDeleteWhere is the Finance ministry in all of this? These are public funds! Have they just said, 'Oh well, its too much of a bother'. Have they acquiesced in a bunch of lawyers skimming the public purse? Doesn't anybody at that useless Parliament in Edinburgh give a damn?
Could it be that its because there are over 180 lawyers acting as paid advisers to the 129 MSPs? Are they all imbeciles being duped, or are they simply too lethargic to care?
Extremely disturbing when a client needs to be able to 'trust' a solicitor. Legal Aid is for people who cannot afford to pay for legal advice/work and is badly needed by the public. It has become almost impossible for the public to claim this much needed aid, because lawyers are stealing the funds? What a ridiculous state of affairs. i was under the impression it was the public who were doing the 'stealing' by falsely claiming (and of course they would be prosecuted for this), but it's the solicitors. Sake, what a sorry state.
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