tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post6664809729744447853..comments2024-03-24T23:01:57.640+00:00Comments on The Justice Diaries: Consumer Focus Scotland refuse to support petition’s call to repeal ‘anti-consumer’ laws allowing lawyers to investigate complaints against themselvesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-77236137494184750222011-02-10T21:10:23.025+00:002011-02-10T21:10:23.025+00:00Cannot see an e.mail to drop this to you on but it...Cannot see an e.mail to drop this to you on but it may be of interest to yourself and readers<br />http://nominedeus.wordpress.com/2011/02/10/more-court-shenanigins-and-freemen/nominedeushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06880828700080164569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-11788514655407442912011-02-10T19:42:10.911+00:002011-02-10T19:42:10.911+00:00The Civil Justice Advisory Group was first establi...The Civil Justice Advisory Group was first established in 2004 by the Scottish Consumer Council, one of Consumer Focus Scotland’s predecessor organisations. It published its report Civil Justice in Scotland: A Case for Review? in November 2005, and four of the six recommendations of this report were incorporated in the remit of the Scottish civil courts review. The Civil Justice Advisory Group was re-established in January 2010 to consider some of the key proposals of the Scottish civil courts review.<br /><br />NO CIVIL JUSTICE AGAINST A LAWYER, SOME CONSUMER PROTECTION.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-6450219722249150892011-02-10T13:37:25.716+00:002011-02-10T13:37:25.716+00:00The day is coming when the public will see lawyers...The day is coming when the public will see lawyers for the scum they are. Poor legal service and corruption is what Consumer Focus Scotland and MSP's agree with. They do not fear the Law Society, they must be benefiting financially or they would not have watered down the<br />LPLA Act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-74543340897778453742011-02-10T13:14:08.061+00:002011-02-10T13:14:08.061+00:00Former Labour MP Jim Devine has been found guilty ...Former Labour MP Jim Devine has been found guilty of fiddling his expenses.<br /><br />Devine, 57, who held the Livingston seat, submitted false invoices for cleaning and printing work totalling £8,385.<br /><br />He was found guilty by a jury at Southwark Crown Court of two charges of false accounting. He was cleared of one other count relating £360 for cleaning work.<br /><br />The former backbencher, of West Main Street, Bathgate, West Lothian, was the first MP to stand trial in the wake of the expenses scandal.<br /><br />The jury of six men and six women took two hours and 45 minutes to agree with the prosecution that on the two counts Devine showed a "woeful inadequacy" in abiding by the core principles expected of MPs.<br /><br />Peter Wright QC, prosecuting, said the case against Devine was "very straightforward".<br /><br />The former MP made the fraudulent claims "with a view to gain for himself, or with an intent to cause loss to another - the public purse".<br /><br />The prosecutor said a guide known as the Green Book was readily available to MPs and clearly set out the rules and regulations on submitting expenses that must relate to parliamentary duties. It lists the fundamental principles MPs should adhere to when making expenses claims, Mr Wright told the court.<br /><br />"These are based on concepts of selflessness, integrity, objectivity, accountability, openness, honesty and leadership," he said. "We say these are qualities of which Mr Devine demonstrated a woeful inadequacy."<br /><br />Devine was granted unconditional bail by Mr Justice Saunders, the trial judge, and he will be sentenced in due course.<br /><br />WHEN DO WE GET PUBLIC TRIALS OF CROOKED LAWYERS? DEVINE TRIED TO HIDE BEHIND PARLIAMENTARY PRIVILIDGE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-42029132705762299932011-02-10T11:04:00.225+00:002011-02-10T11:04:00.225+00:00Ian Tomlinson, Blair Peach murdered by state actor...Ian Tomlinson, Blair Peach murdered by state actors. <br /><br />It never shocks me how many people, especially doctors, lawyers, police the Crown Prosecution Service state "insufficient evidence to prosecute". Lets face it those who gather evidence can fiddle it, who will stop them? <br /><br />The Scottish Legal Complaints Commission uphold one complaint out of 1400 since October 2008. Draw your own conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-18548372968590826602011-02-10T10:57:40.143+00:002011-02-10T10:57:40.143+00:00From an earlier posting by Peter.
SOLICITORS coul...From an earlier posting by Peter.<br /><br />SOLICITORS could be unfairly penalised for the failings of the legal profession south of the Border should the Scottish Executive replicate the Clementi White Paper proposals, the Law Society of Scotland has warned. Douglas Mill, the society's chief executive, raised concerns that the Executive may follow the English example of raising the compensation limit for inadequate professional service (IPS) to £20,000.<br /><br />Mill told The Scotsman that if the new independent complaints handling body - the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission (YOU HAD NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT DOUGLAS ONE COMPLAINT UPHELD OUT OF 1400, AND WE DO NOT KNOW THE LAWYERS NAME) - is empowered to impose such a penalty on solicitors it would be "nothing less than naked lawyer-bashing."<br /><br />MR MILL, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF ALL OF YOUR INHERITANCE WAS STOLEN BY A LAWYER AND YOU WERE A JOINER. IT WOULD NOT BE LAWYER BASHING, LAWYER MURDER MORE LIKE. I BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT REACHABLE, ANY CRIME COMMITTED BY A LAWYER MUST BE EXCUSED BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL PALS, CONSUMER FOCUS AGREE WITH YOU AND THE PARLIAMENT YOU ALL CONTROL. <br /><br />SELF REGULATION CREATES A CRIMINAL MINDSET WHICH RESULTS IN IDEAS LIKE "YOU CANNOT TOUCH ME, I AM ABOVE THE LAW". YOU ARE ABOVE THE LAW, OH DRINK AND DRIVE THEN YOU WOULD GET PROSECUTED BECAUSE YOU MAY KILL A LAWYERS CHILD, BUT STEAL A CLIENTS MONEY, WELL LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID TO PETER PHONING YOUR CRONIES TO STOP HIS LEGAL AID AND WARNING LAW FIRMS NOT TO REPRESENT HIM. YOU ARE A PARTY TO COVERING UP LEGAL THEFT. I WOULD BE TOO FRIGHTENED TO DO WHAT YOU LAWYERS DO TO PEOPLE, BECAUSE I AM NOT A THIEF AND I AM BALANCED.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-39461115325612960612011-02-10T02:07:10.855+00:002011-02-10T02:07:10.855+00:00Consumer Focus sucks!
Exactly what does it take t...Consumer Focus sucks!<br /><br />Exactly what does it take to get a fair hearing against a crooked attorney in Scotland?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-58301225713085507372011-02-10T01:21:56.053+00:002011-02-10T01:21:56.053+00:00In defence of Scots we dont all stab each other in...In defence of Scots we dont all stab each other in the back. Its just those who like to think of themselves as the 'professional classes' you have to watch out for such as lawyers accountants judges bankers politicians even some doctors who will use any means to stab you in the back to cover up whatever dirty deeds they did.<br /><br />EXACTLY ALL DIRTY BASTARDS WHO ARE 99.99% ABOVE THE LAW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-85503908630446373322011-02-10T00:33:41.533+00:002011-02-10T00:33:41.533+00:00http://news.aol.co.uk/uk-news/story/gp-wont-face-n...http://news.aol.co.uk/uk-news/story/gp-wont-face-new-murder-charges/1576886<br /><br />A disgraced GP who admitted to hastening the deaths of dozens of his patients will not face new murder charges, it has been revealed.<br /><br />Dr Howard Martin, who was cleared six years ago of killing three of his elderly patients, was being investigated by the Crown Prosecution Service following claims he had helped patients to die.<br /><br />CPS officials decided there was insufficient grounds for a new prosecution after studying files provided by Durham Police. Investigators broke the news to relatives of those affected that Dr Martin's admissions fell short of justifying his re-arrest on suspicion of murder.<br />Follow us on Facebook Follow us on Twitter RSS<br /><br />The 76-year-old, who qualified in 1958, was struck off by the General Medical Council last year. He then spoke in a newspaper interview about having helped hasten the deaths of two patients by giving them fatal doses of painkillers.<br /><br />HOW MANY TIMES DO SELF REGULATORS AVOID THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS. SOME CROWN PROSECUTION SERVICE, THE PATTERN IS ALWAYS THE SAME "NEVER ENOUGH EVIDENCE".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-41575985409024255852011-02-10T00:18:09.169+00:002011-02-10T00:18:09.169+00:00A disgraced GP who admitted to hastening the death...A disgraced GP who admitted to hastening the deaths of dozens of his patients will not face new murder charges, it has been revealed.<br /><br />Dr Howard Martin, who was cleared six years ago of killing three of his elderly patients, was being investigated by the Crown Prosecution Service following claims he had helped patients to die.<br /><br />CPS officials decided there was insufficient grounds for a new prosecution after studying files provided by Durham Police. Investigators broke the news to relatives of those affected that Dr Martin's admissions fell short of justifying his re-arrest on suspicion of murder.<br /><br />The 76-year-old, who qualified in 1958, was struck off by the General Medical Council last year. He then spoke in a newspaper interview about having helped hasten the deaths of two patients by giving them fatal doses of painkillers.<br /><br />SELF REGULATORS ALWAYS SEEM TO AVOID PROSECUTION, I SEE IT TIME AND TIME AGAIN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-84941559947541133932011-02-09T21:59:35.465+00:002011-02-09T21:59:35.465+00:00So what happens now?
Will the Parliament throw ou...So what happens now? <br />Will the Parliament throw out the petition or what?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-46328372642431329232011-02-09T20:49:30.769+00:002011-02-09T20:49:30.769+00:00The Law Society of Scotland retains its iron grip ...The Law Society of Scotland retains its iron grip over self regulation of complaints with the apparent support from most ‘official quarters’ including the Scottish Government & even some consumer bodies.<br /><br />The NHS is the same Peter, those in positions of power do not want public scrutiny or power weilded over them. That is why the petition failed. How can a system dedicated to justice deliver injustice with impunity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-59591822073202594932011-02-09T20:39:45.755+00:002011-02-09T20:39:45.755+00:00The SNP are selective on Independence. They want t...The SNP are selective on Independence. They want to split up the UK (I do not) and want to leave the Scottish Judiciary above the law so thay can destroy people living in Scotland, not just Scots, but anyone who comes under Scots law. <br /><br />Scottish justice means your lawyer can ruin you and you have no redress. This what MSP's stand for.<br /><br />They can make take all of your hard earned possessions in monetary terms and the mandarins at the Law Society will cover it up. Not all people in Scotland are prosecuted for their crimes because self regulation kills complaints about lawyers. Do you want to trust one with the value in your home?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-56783192099726084492011-02-09T20:35:24.908+00:002011-02-09T20:35:24.908+00:00Anonymous said...
Nice one from this consumer...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> Nice one from this consumer crowd.To me they now sound worse than the Law Society itself<br /><br /> The thing I learn from this is the Scottish are good at stabbing each other in the back.Not to be trusted or turn your back on<br /><br /> Its been the same in history just look at William Wallace's own men betrayed him to the English yet the SNP use his name as a cry for independence and piss all over everyone when it matters like when it comes to the law or justice<br /><br /> I wouldnt blame anyone who gets fed up with being treated like shit by these goons<br /><br /> 8 February 2011 21:38<br /><br />In defence of Scots we dont all stab each other in the back.Its just those who like to think of themselves as the 'professional classes' you have to watch out for such as lawyers accountants judges bankers politicians even some doctors who will use any means to stab you in the back to cover up whatever dirty deeds they did.<br /><br />If you avoid that lot you will do yourself a good service!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-6779499135646455872011-02-09T18:26:54.221+00:002011-02-09T18:26:54.221+00:00Scotland's top prosecutor has warned of a loss...Scotland's top prosecutor has warned of a loss of identity for Scots law under UK Supreme Court powers to make decisions on Scots human rights cases.<br /><br />Lord Advocate Elish Angiolini suggested the court should only consider newer legislation or decisions with major constitutional consequences.<br /><br />Her comments came after the Supreme Court's ruling on the Cadder case.<br /><br />It meant Scottish police could no longer question suspects without allowing them access to a lawyer.<br /><br />In civil cases Elish no one can sue a lawyer. Typical rough justice, you see only what you want to see Elish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-74378781849821841722011-02-09T17:25:35.788+00:002011-02-09T17:25:35.788+00:00A friend of mine said you will not be able to get ...A friend of mine said you will not be able to get a lawyer now you signed the petition. I said to him, lucky me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-71202956029905084322011-02-09T15:01:11.427+00:002011-02-09T15:01:11.427+00:00The Law Society will want Cameron to save Lawyer F...The Law Society will want Cameron to save Lawyer Focus Scotland now.<br /><br />Consumer protection depends not on consumers in general but on how the definition of consumers change depending on the services they are consuming. Clearly consumers of legal services are not consumers in Consumer Focus Scotlands opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-20421086251377138432011-02-09T14:56:37.758+00:002011-02-09T14:56:37.758+00:00Not surprised by this at all.
The SCC have talked...Not surprised by this at all.<br /><br />The SCC have talked about complaints against lawyers for years and I see managed to scoop some headlines albeit with your help.<br /><br />Now they turn round and say the opposite what a hopeless lotAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-8634532426688538242011-02-09T12:31:02.407+00:002011-02-09T12:31:02.407+00:00Interesting report you posted there Mr Cherbi.
Con...Interesting report you posted there Mr Cherbi.<br />Considering what they said in 1999 its a bit rich of Consumer Focus to claim self regulation brings benefits to consumers (I dont think anyone really believes this).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-82975852537449010842011-02-09T10:26:54.211+00:002011-02-09T10:26:54.211+00:00It is time to hit the streets in order to be heard...It is time to hit the streets in order to be heard.<br /><br />Who can blame us, Hollyrood has been taking the piss for a long time now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-76755634315129791372011-02-09T02:35:34.173+00:002011-02-09T02:35:34.173+00:00Next time someone laughs when I say lawyers run th...Next time someone laughs when I say lawyers run the country I'll just refer them to this and hope it happens to them!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-66920041415824403342011-02-09T01:13:29.728+00:002011-02-09T01:13:29.728+00:00Hmmm it seems everything at this bloody parliament...Hmmm it seems everything at this bloody parliament is a done deal before its even heard like the petition you were writing about.<br /><br />Anything about the law seems to have no chance of succeeding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-30866389954621067352011-02-09T00:36:43.530+00:002011-02-09T00:36:43.530+00:00Thanks for all your comments & emails on this ...Thanks for all your comments & emails on this article so far.<br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 22:41<br /><br />The reappointment of Jim Martin as SPSO is "a done deal", according to colleagues in the media. However, I will cover it later in the week.<br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 15:32<br /><br />I'm not sure whether Consumer Focus (England) supported completely independent regulation of solicitors in England & Wales, however I do know the Legal Ombudsman is streets ahead of the SLCC, which is anything but independent ...<br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 15:46<br /><br />Good point .. and no action taken there either ...<br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 17:22<br /><br />Yes .. another good point which I completely agree with.<br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 17:42<br /><br />Here is a link to the Scottish Consumer Council's 1999 report "Complaints Against Solicitors", which can be downloaded as a pdf from Google Documents, here : <a href="http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B3OH7IONLykbNDIzYmVmZTUtYjVlNS00YjRiLThjM2QtNDA2NGFmNTU3MjE3&hl=en" rel="nofollow">Complaints Against Solicitors 1999 SCC report pdf</a><br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 21:58<br /><br />So noted ...<br /><br /># Anonymous @ 8 February 2011 20:16<br /><br />Yes ... I agree ...Diary of Injusticehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697476580161690118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-28925146137406946492011-02-08T22:41:48.088+00:002011-02-08T22:41:48.088+00:00Hi Peter
How about doing a feature on on the SPCB...Hi Peter<br /><br />How about doing a feature on on the SPCB Motion to reappoint Jim Martin as the Scottish Public Services Ombudsman on Thursday ?<br /><br />You did a good one on the petitions against him earlier on so I hope you stick with the story !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-65862839441251039302011-02-08T21:58:55.474+00:002011-02-08T21:58:55.474+00:00Another letdown ? What a surprise (not)
Dont focus...Another letdown ? What a surprise (not)<br />Dont focus too much on this one Peter there are plenty of other justice/injustice issues needing a bit of coverage!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com