tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post6039546486906510297..comments2024-03-24T23:01:57.640+00:00Comments on The Justice Diaries: Regulatory disclosure to solicitors clients 'a must' as legal ombudsman's report fails to name & shame rogue lawyersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-55872680798362733302008-09-10T14:14:00.000+01:002008-09-10T14:14:00.000+01:00I saw no coverage of these Ombudsman notices in th...I saw no coverage of these Ombudsman notices in the newspapers and reading them I can see why.Complete disgrace that anyone can present such a farce to the public funded with public money.Those lawyers should have been named and shamed as you say.The complainers should also be identified along with the staff from the Law Society who handled it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-69156760536449384362008-09-10T12:04:00.000+01:002008-09-10T12:04:00.000+01:00I don't think the Law Society will agree with you ...I don't think the Law Society will agree with you on this one Peter.Every lawyer has probably had complaints made against them and I'm sure if most people knew their lawyer's history they wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.<BR/>I used to work for CAB and I can tell you the most frequent issue we dealt with was bad legal advice and lawyers who were fleecing their clients.No one wants to make all that public because it would and should cause the collapse of the legal profession in its present format.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work as others here say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-26119327453576473662008-09-09T19:25:00.000+01:002008-09-09T19:25:00.000+01:00Good story - you are right about naming and shamin...Good story - you are right about naming and shaming the lot of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-89952350674145808382008-09-09T18:14:00.000+01:002008-09-09T18:14:00.000+01:00No wonder hardly anyone bothers going to the Legal...No wonder hardly anyone bothers going to the Legal Services ombudsman if that's all she can do!<BR/>We need someone with TEETH!<BR/>How about you Mr Cherbi?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-40395739794761571382008-09-09T16:57:00.000+01:002008-09-09T16:57:00.000+01:00Thanks for all your comments, and I must say I am ...Thanks for all your comments, and I must say I am impressed with the common points you all raise regarding the issue of naming & shaming the legal firms involved, and that such reports should be written with a view so that everyone is aware of just what was going on, and with which legal firm.<BR/><BR/>I particularly liked the comparison of Billy Connolly's take on algebra ... as a fan of Mr Connolly, I wonder what he would have to say about errant lawyers ...<BR/><BR/>#"no justice in SNP Scotland" - I'd say you are probably about right on that one ... The SNP have failed Scotland on justice without a doubt and no one in the party seems willing to correct it.<BR/><BR/># Anonymous @ 12pm<BR/><BR/>Excellent suggestions.I agree entirely.<BR/><BR/># Anonymous @ 3.34pm<BR/><BR/>Be careful how you phrase that, but what you say is shared by many as a viewpoint.Diary of Injusticehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697476580161690118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-89481001891805801592008-09-09T15:34:00.000+01:002008-09-09T15:34:00.000+01:00It doesn't take much to see no one is getting just...It doesn't take much to see no one is getting justice with complaints against their lawyers.<BR/>Maybe the trap is to fall into their complaints system in the first place and then they steer you in their own direction.<BR/>You all should avoid using lawyers in that case or as some people are now suggesting roll your sleeves up and sort out the thief yourselves.<BR/>Oh whats that now? can't have people sorting out thieves? well if the thieves wont sort themselves out who will?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-83903335278341178632008-09-09T12:00:00.000+01:002008-09-09T12:00:00.000+01:00Hi PeterI can't make any sense of this Jane Irvine...Hi Peter<BR/><BR/>I can't make any sense of this Jane Irvine stuff at all.I agree with the people who are saying these reports should be written much clearer so everyone can understand them and I think everyone including the complainers should be identified.<BR/><BR/>Another thing I would suggest is the Ombudsman be required to look at every complaint the Law Society investigates and make a report on what they did or didn't do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-35119915606826831412008-09-09T10:56:00.000+01:002008-09-09T10:56:00.000+01:00"Mrs X, Mrs Y and Mrs Z went to the solicitors T, ..."Mrs X, Mrs Y and Mrs Z went to the solicitors T, for advice about applying for guardianship of Mr X [Mrs X’s son] and to transfer the titles to Mrs X’s house into the names of Mrs Y and Mrs Z"<BR/><BR/>This looks ridiculous in a publicly funded report on something which obviously went very wrong.<BR/><BR/>As Peter says,name and shame the solicitors involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-71271482289999149402008-09-09T00:25:00.000+01:002008-09-09T00:25:00.000+01:00Hi all seekers of the truth and justice in Scotlan...Hi all seekers of the truth and justice in Scotland (and beyond),<BR/><BR/>For personal reasons, I will make but one contribution to this excellent injustice forum...<BR/><BR/>This is just to suggest (though many of you will have already done this) to write to Alex Salmond MSP / MP, First Minister of Scotland, and Kenny MacAskill MSP, Scotland's Cabinet Secretary FOR JUSTICE (a misnomer if ever there was one!), about your case of Scottish injustice or cases of Scottish injustice you feel strongly about. And remember to let readers know how they respond to your pleas, cries and (very often) screams for help. It is important that fellow injustice victims and the wider public know the kind of men they really are and what their idea of Scottish "Justice" really is.<BR/><BR/>Details for both men here : <BR/><BR/>Alex Salmond MSP / MP, First Minister of Scotland<BR/>http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/msp/membersPages/alex_salmond/contact.htm<BR/><BR/>Kenny MacAskill MSP, Cabinet Secretary FOR JUSTICE (ahem!)<BR/>http://www.scottish.parliament.uk/msp/membersPages/kenny_macaskill/contact.htm<BR/><BR/>I wish everyone seeking the truth and justice in Scotland well. Believe me when I say; you'll need all the luck, strength, fight, determination, tenacity and will in the world to achieve it in Scotland ... especially from these two "gentlemen" ... who are ultimately the two where the change has to come from.<BR/><BR/>Best of luck with your fights for the truth and justice in Scotland ... where Scottish Injustice is indeed rife today under Salmond and Macaskill.<BR/><BR/>Am I right or wrong Mr Cherbi?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-78895606826000509882008-09-09T00:15:00.000+01:002008-09-09T00:15:00.000+01:00A clever idea Peter and one I fully support.I thin...A clever idea Peter and one I fully support.I think there should also be statistics available on just how successful lawyers really are at their job such as case wins and losses and other types of business they perform so potential clients can evaluate whether to go with a particular lawyer or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-37678494205009157972008-09-08T23:33:00.000+01:002008-09-08T23:33:00.000+01:00I agree this ombudsman's report is too complicated...I agree this ombudsman's report is too complicated for anyone to understand especially without the identities of the lawyers.<BR/><BR/>This has to change and the lawyers named and shamed as you suggest.Everyone has the right to know if shady goings on have taken place even if the Law Society thinks otherwise and closes ranks with their colleagues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-42080259261327326722008-09-08T23:02:00.000+01:002008-09-08T23:02:00.000+01:00To the previous post complaining about a 'consumer...To the previous post complaining about a 'consumer driven society';<BR/><BR/>The facts demonstrate that the Public has little or no consumer rights when seeking access to the Law in Scotland - just read the Which Magazine Super Complaint and the responses by the Scottish Consumer Council and the OFT.<BR/><BR/>Nothing could more eloquently underline the pressing need for an end to the Law Society's monopoly that the suggestion that paying clients should be content to choose a legal representative based 'on the looks of us'.<BR/><BR/>It is high time solicitors who have been found guilty of misconduct should be named and shamed and those details listed and publically available for at least two years.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately Ms. Irvine will be surrounded by former Law Society staff at the SLCC - so expect no change there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-31160391200710470742008-09-08T22:18:00.000+01:002008-09-08T22:18:00.000+01:00LOL @ Billy Connolly - I think he speaks for us al...LOL @ Billy Connolly - I think he speaks for us all on this story.<BR/><BR/>I have never thought much of "Ombudsmen" to be honest and this latest posting by Peter Cherbi only confirms my fears that lawyers should not be allowed to regulate themselves, nor for that should anybody regulate themselves.<BR/><BR/>I see this particular Ombudsman is to be the Chairwoman? of a new commission which does not sound "independent" by any definition assigned to the word "independence".Can we hope she does better in that post or will her staff who seem to be made up of Law Society workers do their utmost to bungle complaints against their legal friends as they have spent their lives doing so far?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-86225529785873502862008-09-08T20:33:00.000+01:002008-09-08T20:33:00.000+01:00From what you write about lawyers Peter, I don't t...From what you write about lawyers Peter, I don't think anyone would dare use a lawyer if they knew what else they were up to!<BR/><BR/>Good writing as ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-66586058661153816502008-09-08T19:16:00.000+01:002008-09-08T19:16:00.000+01:00Mr Cherbi I have to thank you for such a brilliant...Mr Cherbi I have to thank you for such a brilliant story and idea.<BR/>I am with a legal firm I have heard nothing but bad about since I had a spot of trouble over a bill they claimed I hadn't paid when I had.After they realised they were in the wrong they did apologise but ever since then their work for me has been sloppy and expensive to the point I will no longer be using them after they complete their current workload for me.<BR/>I think they have guessed I will be leaving them which is why their work has been so poor since our little spat and why they have obviously been overcharging me.<BR/>If I had heard the things I now know about my solicitor and his partners I would have steered well clear of them as you say in your blog and after I finish with them I will send you some material you can use as you like.<BR/><BR/>Grateful that someone in Scotland has the courage to stand up to legal thuggery!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-31918658410192215292008-09-08T18:16:00.000+01:002008-09-08T18:16:00.000+01:00Jane Irvine needs to appreciate we aren't all fuck...Jane Irvine needs to appreciate we aren't all fucking algebra experts so get writing something we can all understand about bent lawyers diddling the public!<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k72awYjfGfk" REL="nofollow">Billy Connolly on fucking algebra</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-90609252031991966012008-09-08T17:05:00.000+01:002008-09-08T17:05:00.000+01:00Excellent idea Mr Cherbi.If a lawyer has been the ...Excellent idea Mr Cherbi.<BR/><BR/>If a lawyer has been the subject of complaints all clients should get to know about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-83314094364111054942008-09-08T16:48:00.000+01:002008-09-08T16:48:00.000+01:00I don't see why we should be forced to declare our...I don't see why we should be forced to declare our past service to clients.If they don't like the look of us they can use the door or ask around but I suppose you will end up getting your way in a consumer driven worldAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-14420687446055861772008-09-08T16:13:00.000+01:002008-09-08T16:13:00.000+01:00One of the best ideas I've heard for a long time P...One of the best ideas I've heard for a long time Peter.If a lawyer is crooked or has been fiddling other clients we should all be told about it no exceptions!<BR/><BR/>Good work and keep it up !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-27076572635433132362008-09-08T16:06:00.000+01:002008-09-08T16:06:00.000+01:00Write to Alex Salmond & Kenny MacAskill about ...Write to Alex Salmond & Kenny MacAskill about your injustice... and let us all know how you get on! <BR/><BR/>http://scotchedjustice.forumotion.com/scottish-miscarriage-of-justice-cases-f1/write-to-alex-salmond-kenny-macaskill-about-your-injustice-t250.htm#333Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-44268936202793743882008-09-08T14:13:00.000+01:002008-09-08T14:13:00.000+01:00What fucking use is writing a report if you dont i...What fucking use is writing a report if you dont identify anyone? Fairly stupid waste of money the whole exercise No one gets anywhere complaining against a lawyer they should just go and do some DIY complaints relief themselvesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com