tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post446569754115608038..comments2024-03-24T23:01:57.640+00:00Comments on The Justice Diaries: Judicial Transparency is “not workable” claims Scotland’s top judge Brian Gill in private meeting with Holyrood msps on register of judicial interests petitionUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-24149359043741637792014-02-18T01:43:24.408+00:002014-02-18T01:43:24.408+00:00These notes read more like orders from the judge.L...These notes read more like orders from the judge.Little wonder the msps who met him sound a bit off key in the video clip of the meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-5705377319989653212014-02-14T11:27:09.111+00:002014-02-14T11:27:09.111+00:00Delays and secrecy, sums up Scotland's lawyers...Delays and secrecy, sums up Scotland's lawyers and Judges perfectly. Delays and secrecy mean maximum profitability, bunch of crooks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-48983660862101968332014-02-13T20:34:25.966+00:002014-02-13T20:34:25.966+00:00A lot of these judges and lawyers will be sweating...A lot of these judges and lawyers will be sweating today at the news Scotland wont get to keep the pound,Just imagine the damage it will do to their ill gotten assets and all the money they take from clients!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-47385457491587272632014-02-13T14:44:08.862+00:002014-02-13T14:44:08.862+00:00It is no surprise that the Scottish Justice System...It is no surprise that the Scottish Justice System is a laughing-stock in Scotland and right around the World, when a simple Petition turns into an unholy circus?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-30949067257048267612014-02-13T14:37:31.492+00:002014-02-13T14:37:31.492+00:00Once again, another phoney-bone-of-contention?
Th...Once again, another phoney-bone-of-contention?<br /><br />The Petition is unconcerned in incidences where a Judge/Sheriff has recused himself/herself and noted it on the court papers?<br /><br />What ithe Petition is trying to determine is how many incidences occur in Scottish Courts where Scottish Judges/Sheriffs wilfully and deliberately fail to recuse themselves in order to find favouritism toward one of the parties and by so doing commit the offence of defeating the ends of justice?<br /><br />Lord Gill says, take my 'Word' for it that this doesn't happen, therefore nobody needs to go poking their nose into my business'?<br /><br />All the Petitioner is saying is, 'OK, I believe you but in order to be seen to be transparent and accountable you need to prove to the Scottish Public that this is not going on and is not commonplace in Scottish Courts'<br /><br />Given Gill's delaying tactics, obfuscation and undermining of the Parliamentary Process, it is becoming apparent that it is not a case of Lord Gill not being able to prove his stated legal position but that he is refusing to prove his stated legal position, which is putting his Office of Lord President into disrepute as the Scottish Public cannot trust a Judge who insists on secrecy and does not give-a-jot about accountability and the Scottish Public can smell-a-rat over Lord Gill's refusal to come clean about the conduct of Judges/Sheriffs, to the degree that he cannot put himself in the legally vulnerable position of stating to the Public Petitions Committee on-record that such conduct is not common place?<br /><br />The catch-22 (or 32) here is that it has already been sensationally revealed by Diary of Injustice Journalists that there HAVE been instances of inpropriety, a matter which seems to be backed up by Moi Ai's findings, where she gave the heavy-weight Gill a few swift punches to the solar plexus, if not a knockout punch, not to mention glaring examples of miscarriages of justice where Scottish Judges fail to recuse themselves where there is a clear conflict of interest?<br /><br />Lord Gill is caught between a rock and a hard place of his own making and the only way for him to get out of this pickle is to throw in the towel?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-83824682907377652532014-02-13T14:23:39.983+00:002014-02-13T14:23:39.983+00:00I dont trust any judge now I have read thisI dont trust any judge now I have read thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-65483425971939905002014-02-13T11:38:46.662+00:002014-02-13T11:38:46.662+00:00Far too much deference to these judges in Scotland...Far too much deference to these judges in Scotland and no reason to do so now your debate has revealed just what they think of us and the very laws and expectations on transparency they insist on in their own courts.<br /><br />Note please I said "their courts" because that is what has happened here.Our courts have become their courts their little empires and nothing gets past them not even your elected Scottish politicians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-49617438414854314282014-02-12T22:55:14.036+00:002014-02-12T22:55:14.036+00:00Scotland is going down the tubes into the sewerScotland is going down the tubes into the sewerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-65187149926029831792014-02-12T21:59:59.373+00:002014-02-12T21:59:59.373+00:00"The Lord President saw no need to require an..."The Lord President saw no need to require an independent record of the meeting.”<br /><br />This seems to be the only certainty of this private meeting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-22571063814901009342014-02-12T19:05:32.656+00:002014-02-12T19:05:32.656+00:00Diary of Injustice said...
@ 11 February 2014...Diary of Injustice said...<br /><br /> @ 11 February 2014 19:58<br /><br /> Good points.It seems to be the judiciary have forgotten they too are part of the community which they are supposed to serve, rather than the other way around.<br /><br /> The Lord President's pick & mix approach to transparency is not doing the reputation of the justice system any good.<br /><br /> However we are learning a lot from the debate itself in terms of what the judiciary think of the rest of us and how they view their own obligations to laws and expectations of transparency which apply to everyone else.<br /><br /> 11 February 2014 22:26<br /><br />No doubt about it Peter you win hands down against Gill and his cronies who scuttle around in back rooms trying to shut everybody up over this question of the judges interests.<br /><br />Good one as always keep it up mate!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-10059296318649306732014-02-12T18:00:10.441+00:002014-02-12T18:00:10.441+00:00The MSP's who went to the side-meeting and who...The MSP's who went to the side-meeting and who were evasive when reporting back to the Public Petitions Committee have added their coats to the cloakroom where Lord Gill keeps his Jacket?<br /><br />The Shaky-Peg cloakroom?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-26971525429284431972014-02-12T17:52:29.308+00:002014-02-12T17:52:29.308+00:00 Anonymous said...
The msps have made a mess of th... Anonymous said...<br />The msps have made a mess of this because now there is a precedent set for a private meeting to give evidence and anyone can now ask for same or if refused take it to a judge and what is the judge going to say when his boss Lord Gill held one of these same private meetings to get his points across?<br /><br />They should have insisted he go to the parliament and face the full committee on camera.The judges must be very happy the damage being caused to democracy just to protect whatever they are hiding.<br /><br />12 February 2014 11:36<br />-----------------------------<br /><br />Is this not circumventing and undermining the democracy and the law?<br /><br />Hardly consistent with the responsibilities and duties of a Lord President or were these basic principles thrown away years ago for no other reason than they could get away with it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-13467751339329078522014-02-12T17:49:36.007+00:002014-02-12T17:49:36.007+00:00Anonymous said...
This top judge of yours has one...Anonymous said...<br /><br />This top judge of yours has one serious power complex.Your legislature should call his bluff and do what they are supposed to do - legislate and require judges to declare like everyone else.<br /><br />11 February 2014 21:26<br /><br />I wholeheartedly agree!<br /><br />12 February 2014 12:00<br />==================<br /><br />Me too.<br /><br />Enough of this interminable delay.<br /><br />Just get on with it and get these Scottish Judges back into line?<br /><br />Scottish Judges cannot be allowed to be above the law?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-2494757945050422302014-02-12T15:38:54.843+00:002014-02-12T15:38:54.843+00:00If a judge recuses him or herself it is recorded i...If a judge recuses him or herself it is recorded in the minute of court proceedings, part of the formal court process. No tally is kept of figures. Lord Gill had recused himself twice. Any interested person could make an FOI request with respect to a particular judicial office holder to seek information on that person’s recusal record.<br /><br />Utter garbage from Gill and if it is so easy to come up with these excuses in a private meeting why is he not appearing in the parliament to say it out loud in front of the cameras?<br /><br />Maybe because he will be laughed out the room?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-91219929938557924152014-02-12T14:57:20.430+00:002014-02-12T14:57:20.430+00:00What an absurd argument for a judge to present aga...What an absurd argument for a judge to present against transparencyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-22061805574920724612014-02-12T14:29:17.115+00:002014-02-12T14:29:17.115+00:00
Reading the notes it almost sounds like Gill held...<br />Reading the notes it almost sounds like Gill held a session of his court in the parliament itself and no one else was allowed to make any pointsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-56278319529867058902014-02-12T12:00:10.080+00:002014-02-12T12:00:10.080+00:00Anonymous said...
This top judge of yours has...Anonymous said...<br /><br /> This top judge of yours has one serious power complex.Your legislature should call his bluff and do what they are supposed to do - legislate and require judges to declare like everyone else.<br /><br /> 11 February 2014 21:26<br /><br />I wholeheartedly agree!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-58670689912640960922014-02-12T11:36:17.420+00:002014-02-12T11:36:17.420+00:00The msps have made a mess of this because now ther...The msps have made a mess of this because now there is a precedent set for a private meeting to give evidence and anyone can now ask for same or if refused take it to a judge and what is the judge going to say when his boss Lord Gill held one of these same private meetings to get his points across?<br /><br />They should have insisted he go to the parliament and face the full committee on camera.The judges must be very happy the damage being caused to democracy just to protect whatever they are hiding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-66777695542974133022014-02-12T00:31:20.419+00:002014-02-12T00:31:20.419+00:00"Points made by Lord Gill" and no points..."Points made by Lord Gill" and no points made by anyone else.You couldnt make this up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-18352307823873838702014-02-11T23:35:41.653+00:002014-02-11T23:35:41.653+00:00There is something about Lord Gill's bunker me...There is something about Lord Gill's bunker mentality reasoning that is counter-intuitive? <br /><br />Lord Gill is dogmatic that Transparency for Scottish Judges is unworkable precisely because Scottish Judges have so many other 'interests'?<br /><br />Surely then if it is all of these extra-curricular-Interests that make Transparency for Scottish Judges impossible, then should Scottish Judges not ditch enough of these 'extra' pastimes, so that Transparency IS workable?<br /><br />If Lord Gill was genuine about a credible Scottish Judicial System that was Transparent and Accountable, should he not be championing this as a solution?<br /><br />Or does the negativity and lack of cooperation betray the real secret agenda which is to be able to have cake and eat it at the same time, to have unlimited power and the fawning links to all sorts of organisations to massage their inflated egos and to exert their influence?<br /><br />Remember, Judges are employed as Public Servants to Judge court Cases?<br /><br />Scottish Judges, somewhere along the line, seem to have added in a level of self-superiority-thinking, celebrity and Society demi-god persona's? <br /><br />If my boss came up to me and said, 'Jim, I see that you have failed to meet your targets 10 months in a row now and you have written a note to me here to say that you cannot be expected to fulfil all of your responsibilities to your client base because of all of your other Interests'<br /><br />His next sentence would be, 'gonnae get yer jacket and just fuck-off ya chancer'?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-55370338222146263742014-02-11T22:59:11.473+00:002014-02-11T22:59:11.473+00:00The rest of the Public Petitions Committee must be...The rest of the Public Petitions Committee must be asking themselves why the Convenor and Deputy Convenor were less than transparent about the presence of Stephen Humphries and that they excluded any record from him being in any of their notes?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-69599303561661707582014-02-11T22:55:14.700+00:002014-02-11T22:55:14.700+00:00The Precedent set to allow 'secret side-meetin...The Precedent set to allow 'secret side-meetings' have undermined Democracy and made it difficult for Parliament to say it acts in an equitable above board manner?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-72358368283175191722014-02-11T22:52:17.093+00:002014-02-11T22:52:17.093+00:00All that this shows is how NOT to carry out your b...All that this shows is how NOT to carry out your business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-86602898047907318752014-02-11T22:26:07.870+00:002014-02-11T22:26:07.870+00:00@ 11 February 2014 19:58
Good points.It seems to ...@ 11 February 2014 19:58<br /><br />Good points.It seems to be the judiciary have forgotten they too are part of the community which they are supposed to serve, rather than the other way around.<br /><br />The Lord President's pick & mix approach to transparency is not doing the reputation of the justice system any good.<br /><br />However we are learning a lot from the debate itself in terms of what the judiciary think of the rest of us and how they view their own obligations to laws and expectations of transparency which apply to everyone else.Diary of Injusticehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697476580161690118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-5001214866593877812014-02-11T22:22:03.823+00:002014-02-11T22:22:03.823+00:00@ 11 February 2014 21:26
... a good idea!@ 11 February 2014 21:26<br /><br />... a good idea!Diary of Injusticehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697476580161690118noreply@blogger.com