tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post3712221462536072521..comments2024-03-24T23:01:57.640+00:00Comments on The Justice Diaries: Scotsman legal debate : Complaints Chief ‘left speechless’ over file shredding claims as solicitors struggle to regain public confidenceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-71902454273355075912008-12-08T20:43:00.000+00:002008-12-08T20:43:00.000+00:00I feel badly to give only negatives but it has bee...I feel badly to give only negatives but it has been obvious for some time that people were only around me to get something and that I have never really known love. I have had to accpet this. I had to look at the circumstances in my life. it was hard to accept. I had to look at picking up cans for 2 years and having holes in my clothes that this is what pretneding will do and what others will do to me.all over their love of money and power. I am doneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-8615904612833208302008-12-03T13:41:00.000+00:002008-12-03T13:41:00.000+00:00I haven't seen the hootsmon's version (or rather V...I haven't seen the hootsmon's version (or rather Veitch's version) of the meeting in the paper yet.Do you think she will write about how Irvine was rendered silent over her inactivity about file shredding or will any mention of that get shredded too ?<BR/>Good story anyway Peter.I know someone who went along and said they would have rather spent the time in a sauna along with a couple of sheriffs and 5 hookers !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-49102122894315128232008-12-02T14:42:00.000+00:002008-12-02T14:42:00.000+00:00Any debate organised by the hootsmon in its curren...Any debate organised by the hootsmon in its current condition is a bit iffy and you are dead right - gone are the days when the paper would expose such crooks as Andrew Penman !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-37570504798621314002008-12-01T19:28:00.000+00:002008-12-01T19:28:00.000+00:00Does Jane support lawyers shredding their files ??...Does Jane support lawyers shredding their files ??<BR/><BR/>It looks a bit fishy to me if she wont do anything about it !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-50152926002044595612008-12-01T17:48:00.000+00:002008-12-01T17:48:00.000+00:00So as I read it the slcc have or are allowing Mars...So as I read it the slcc have or are allowing Marsh to present to them their version of the Master Policy but are not allowing the other side of the argument ?<BR/>Smells like a Law Society fit up to me but judging by who is on the quango that comes as no surprise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-29948413364535722482008-12-01T16:10:00.000+00:002008-12-01T16:10:00.000+00:00An interesting report on what I expected to be a p...An interesting report on what I expected to be a pointless debate which you confirmed to be the case.<BR/>I wouldn't put much faith in "Consumer Focus".The truth of the matter is they probably wouldn't have been invited if the lawyers didn't know or approve what they were going to say in advance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-280024407214845592008-12-01T13:52:00.000+00:002008-12-01T13:52:00.000+00:00I attended this debate you are talking about.I rem...I attended this debate you are talking about.<BR/>I remember the question concerning the destruction of files very well and Irvine's lack of tact to explain away her inaction.<BR/>I think we all knew from the start unless you were going to be on this slcc there would be nothing positive come out of it but I'm sure you are probably happy to not be part of something the profession as as you say, taken over completely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-8096418011644329662008-11-30T15:40:00.000+00:002008-11-30T15:40:00.000+00:00I hope Masterman reads what you said here :It may ...I hope Masterman reads what you said here :It may do Mrs Masterman some good to note and reflect on the fact it was the same terrible experiences experiences of clients and the public with the Law Society of Scotland and the Master Policy, which the current Cabinet Secretary for Finance, John Swinney aired at the Justice 2 Committee hearings into the passage of the legislation, which created the Commission and gave Mrs Masterman her current job & salary.<BR/><BR/>Sheer brilliance,Peter.It shows them for what they really are as you say a cover organisation for the legal profession who pays for itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-17311284652973549142008-11-29T18:20:00.000+00:002008-11-29T18:20:00.000+00:00It's disgusting that lawyers are allowed to shred ...It's disgusting that lawyers are allowed to shred files when a complaint has been made against them and it should be against the law not just against any complaint rules.<BR/>Irvine should have done more about it too but its all too convenient for everyone concerned to get rid of the evidence.<BR/><BR/>What a shower of crooks the lot of themAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-28657586851246835572008-11-29T16:52:00.000+00:002008-11-29T16:52:00.000+00:00It looks like the lawyers are pulling the wool ove...It looks like the lawyers are pulling the wool over our eyes with Jane Irvine willingly in tow.<BR/>Throw them out Peter and start again !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-63271717735554359592008-11-29T15:08:00.000+00:002008-11-29T15:08:00.000+00:00Maybe Martin Evans should go to the front of the s...Maybe Martin Evans should go to the front of the silent walk for justice marchers and tell them not to look back at their injustices<BR/>Think he might get trampled in the stampede ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-23283122807593737132008-11-28T21:36:00.000+00:002008-11-28T21:36:00.000+00:00Good post Mr Cherbi.Jane Irvine has made a total f...Good post Mr Cherbi.<BR/>Jane Irvine has made a total fool of herself to say the least.Maybe she should be taking some lessons from dear Conrad Black ? hahaha !!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-10674113549584993252008-11-28T21:16:00.000+00:002008-11-28T21:16:00.000+00:00I am not very impressed with the consumer council ...I am not very impressed with the consumer council focus or whatever they want to call themselves now and where do they get off not commenting on consumer stories ? I suggest they go find something else to do if they aren't willing to speak up for consumersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-45537000094068350862008-11-28T21:07:00.000+00:002008-11-28T21:07:00.000+00:00Peter, I don't fully understand all of this, but d...Peter, I don't fully understand all of this, but do agree something needs to be done to regulate our legal system, it is obvious to me (a ordinary member of the public) that something is drastically wrong, when lawyers are answerable to no one least of all their clients,<BR/>when the law society cannot be civil to a complainer let alone be of service to the complainer,<BR/>and where the legal aid board who are obviously mistaken in regard to client accounts, have not the guts to admit they are wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-18827719480590983972008-11-28T19:26:00.000+00:002008-11-28T19:26:00.000+00:00Catchy headlineI almost thought Jane had been at t...Catchy headline<BR/>I almost thought Jane had been at the shredding too but who knows these days probably a few of the slcc members have done a lot of shredding themselves considering their pasts !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-70798292084431659512008-11-28T18:05:00.000+00:002008-11-28T18:05:00.000+00:00Yes there are a lot of Conrad Blacks in the legal ...Yes there are a lot of Conrad Blacks in the legal profession by the looks and sounds of thingsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-12245557567822373462008-11-28T16:02:00.000+00:002008-11-28T16:02:00.000+00:00Clearly Marianne Evans and Ms Irvine have been tol...Clearly Marianne Evans and Ms Irvine have been told or are instinctively aware of what is required of them if they wish to keep their new jobs, while others such as Martyn Evans formerly head of the Scottish Consumer Council appears to be acting under similar orders in his new position of Consumer Focus Scotland - his new 'independent' organisation even refusing to comment on the debate.<BR/><BR/>Doubtless the new Head of the Law Society - an accountant - will also have been made well aware of whose best (and vested) interests must be protected.<BR/><BR/>The failure to look forward - by stubbornly refusing to address the repeated failures of the past - reveals that those above have no sincere intention of allowing the public any meaningful, proper or improved access to justice, far less have their own complicit failings independently examined.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-25631084930199743412008-11-28T15:49:00.000+00:002008-11-28T15:49:00.000+00:00so shredding is still ok by Irvine or what ? and w...so shredding is still ok by Irvine or what ? and why nothing done about it yet ?<BR/><BR/>good points overall Peter although you don't need to quote the hootsmon version - we all knew how it would turn out anywayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-72093892565095899662008-11-28T15:17:00.000+00:002008-11-28T15:17:00.000+00:00What did you expect ?Lawyers call for the debate, ...What did you expect ?<BR/><BR/>Lawyers call for the debate, wannabe lawyer chairs the debate and keeps talking so no one else can.<BR/><BR/>I'd say that is about the same as most of the Law Society conferences I've ever been to !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com