tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post8999443007322728203..comments2024-03-24T23:01:57.640+00:00Comments on The Justice Diaries: Law Society boss requires ideas for making more money while ethics & honesty fly out the windowUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-43625963500550147412007-07-16T10:02:00.000+01:002007-07-16T10:02:00.000+01:00Dictators don't allow votes, which is why the Law ...Dictators don't allow votes, which is why the Law Society is the way it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-77093429993140300142007-07-11T15:17:00.000+01:002007-07-11T15:17:00.000+01:00so are the hootsmon on Sunday going to put that on...so are the hootsmon on Sunday going to put that one to rest ?<BR/><BR/>isnt it time they had a go back at the Law Society for trying to knock off Cherbi and critics over that attack ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-46981161878063021492007-07-08T04:44:00.000+01:002007-07-08T04:44:00.000+01:00"Honours seem more designed to keep people 'in che..."<BR/>Honours seem more designed to keep people 'in check' than anything else .. rock the boat and we take it back so to speak"<BR/><BR/>Wonderfully put by Mr Cherbi.Marvellous and you don't need anything like that as many surely respect you for what you've done against the lawyers mafia.<BR/><BR/>Keep up the great work !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-18824249698160877962007-07-06T18:02:00.000+01:002007-07-06T18:02:00.000+01:00and they wonder why people take the law into their...and they wonder why people take the law into their own hands ! what a bunch of crooked bastards running the show in Scotland.There should be a fucking blockade of your country to keep that lot from polluting the rest of the world.<BR/><BR/>What do you call a bunch of crooked lawyers stuffed into a crematorium ? a good start !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-17980606171738575952007-07-06T13:47:00.000+01:002007-07-06T13:47:00.000+01:00You certainly have my colleagues going around in c...You certainly have my colleagues going around in circles Peter.<BR/><BR/>Far from wasting my lunch hour to read all this I think you would be a client magnet ! but you would have to work with people in the profession without eating them simply over a few mistakes.Is that possible after what you've all said against us ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-38341018775093250242007-07-06T06:07:00.000+01:002007-07-06T06:07:00.000+01:00Had to come here for some excitement because the h...Had to come here for some excitement because the hootsmon is so dull tonight and you don't disappoint !<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work Peter, I noticed your comments on Monday against Mill and wondered if any lawyers would take you on but seems not.No one likes him then !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-6492948414687003572007-07-06T05:16:00.000+01:002007-07-06T05:16:00.000+01:00There's something very wrong about the Chief Execu...There's something very wrong about the Chief Executive of the Law Society of Scotland doing all this to you Mr Cherbi. I agree with others.There seems to be a case of extreme prejudice here against you and others who feel maligned by the legal profession in Scotland.<BR/><BR/>I'm inclined to agree with the last comment that the authorities there in Scotland should investigate the Law Society's remarks in the Scotland on Sunday.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-16595624189890257432007-07-05T19:04:00.000+01:002007-07-05T19:04:00.000+01:00Douglas Mill looks very strained in that picture,t...Douglas Mill looks very strained in that picture,the lack of hair down to dealing with you perhaps ?<BR/><BR/>I can't imagine why he would come out with a comparison of committing suicide over lack of respect, when his own colleagues have caused a few suicides and deaths through their own actions.<BR/><BR/>Don't they usually section people under the Mental Health Act for coming out with stuff like that in public ? Aren't his underlings the least bit worried their boss would come out with such gibberish in the national media ?<BR/><BR/>Clearly there is an infatuation with you at the Law Society for them to come out with those comments in the Scotland on Sunday story about the attack on their Chief Accountant.<BR/>If someone did that to me, I'd call the Police and ask they be charged with attempting to implicate someone in a criminal investigation.I now wonder why the Police did not investigate the Law Society for making those accusations against you in the press.There is clearly a malicious motivation to what was said against you. I think you should contact the Lord Advocate on what happened and what was said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-8129532668967476872007-07-05T17:09:00.000+01:002007-07-05T17:09:00.000+01:00You don't strike me as someone who needs honours M...You don't strike me as someone who needs honours Mr Cherbi.Getting the LPLA Act passed was a feat on it's own despite all the opposition to it from the profession.People surely respect you for that even if they hate your guts.<BR/><BR/>I think your suggestion the membership take a vote on Douglas Mill is gaining ground but whether anyone has the balls to put their head above the parapet is another matter !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-67434191632259707212007-07-05T15:08:00.000+01:002007-07-05T15:08:00.000+01:00#Anonymous @6.69pmForming a legal firm isn't in my...#Anonymous @6.69pm<BR/><BR/>Forming a legal firm isn't in my plan but I suppose never say never .... Depends what happens after Clementi eventually comes to Scotland. This has been suggested to me a few times this week in correspondence ...<BR/><BR/>#anonymous @ 4.12pm<BR/><BR/>Why Douglas Mill hates me I do not know but his feelings towards me seem to be more widespread among at least, the 'leading lights' of the Scottish legal profession - who are as ever willing to go all out to protect their crooked colleagues. For people who profess to serve & represent the law, they are certainly well skilled in corruption & attempts to undermine people at any cost.<BR/><BR/>#Anonymous @9.23pm<BR/><BR/>Happy 4th July to you too. Scotland is my home, there's too much to do here.<BR/><BR/>#Anonymous @4.23pm<BR/><BR/>Honours seem more designed to keep people 'in check' than anything else .. rock the boat and we take it back so to speak... I'd rather have all the cases of injustice brought to me resolved and for those poor folks to have peace of mind & resolution to their predicaments than get a 'pin from the queen' thanks, so rest easy on that one.There will be no accolades for me, I've rocked too many boats.<BR/><BR/>#Anonymous @ 7.52pm<BR/><BR/>If you know of details involving Turcan Connell or any legal firm providing bad service, and particularly where complaints were made to the Law Society of Scotland and nothing was done, please send details to me.Diary of Injusticehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697476580161690118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-13704188879723034822007-07-05T07:52:00.000+01:002007-07-05T07:52:00.000+01:00I know a firm which Turcan Connell have acted for ...I know a firm which Turcan Connell have acted for in the past.They made huge mistakes in their work and cost that company a lot.<BR/><BR/>Don't think the idea of employing non lawyers in the same firm to sweet talk the client will do much good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-28620958219574352552007-07-05T07:07:00.000+01:002007-07-05T07:07:00.000+01:00"ethics & hoensty fly out the window"Peter, those ..."ethics & hoensty fly out the window"<BR/><BR/>Peter, those values never existed to begin with in the legal profession, at least not while the Law Society has been training them up to fleece clients without fear of redress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-55547842819669950012007-07-05T04:56:00.000+01:002007-07-05T04:56:00.000+01:00Hands off our Cherbi ! We need him in Scotland .Di...Hands off our Cherbi ! We need him in Scotland .Didn't see him get a pin from the queen for his efforts passing law for victims of lawyers.Shame on us for not appreciating our own!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-12701724951679194482007-07-04T21:23:00.000+01:002007-07-04T21:23:00.000+01:00Happy 4th July Peter Cherbi.Come to the USA and wo...Happy 4th July Peter Cherbi.<BR/><BR/>Come to the USA and work in our legal system.<BR/><BR/>The clients would love your talk !.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-22590014388155231722007-07-04T20:50:00.000+01:002007-07-04T20:50:00.000+01:00I like your response to some of the comments Mr Ch...I like your response to some of the comments Mr Cherbi.It must be difficult for the legal profession to spin some tricks past you !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-79106483020437328382007-07-04T16:12:00.000+01:002007-07-04T16:12:00.000+01:00Saw your comments in the Scotsman on this story.No...Saw your comments in the Scotsman on this story.Now I see why Mill hates your guts.You caught him red handed on that one with your legal aid case !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-80575346781274489532007-07-04T14:16:00.000+01:002007-07-04T14:16:00.000+01:00As always Mr Cherbi gets to the heart of the debat...As always Mr Cherbi gets to the heart of the debate.<BR/><BR/>"The bottom line is if a client knows a firm has a bad reputation or is just plain crooked ..."<BR/><BR/>No one in their right mind would use many a legal firm if they knew their "regulatory history" as you refer to it, Peter but try telling this to the legal profession and it's like talking to a brick wall.<BR/><BR/>It's about money and protecting business as you rightly point out and banter between solicitors in the newspapers dressed up as a news item seems to be the only way the Law Society can seek to engage the public on this issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-2832308548074160942007-07-03T18:59:00.000+01:002007-07-03T18:59:00.000+01:00Form a legal firm yourself Peter.If your writing i...Form a legal firm yourself Peter.If your writing is anything to go by I would have you represent my legal affairs without a doubt and I can think of many more who would too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-23257378247875824472007-07-03T17:34:00.000+01:002007-07-03T17:34:00.000+01:00Thanks for your comments everyone#Poirot,I saw tha...Thanks for your comments everyone<BR/><BR/>#Poirot,<BR/><BR/>I saw that article by Lord McCluskey on Land Reform, thanks. I see he ended it again with a warning to the Parliament & Executive on meddling with the legal system & judiciary again with the following quote :<BR/><BR/>"The Lord Advocate should make a clear and authoritative statement to parliament that neither the law officers nor other ministers have any duty, or right, to offer advice or instructions to the judiciary as to the meaning and application of the law. "<BR/><BR/>It seems Lord McCluskey has a real fear that Judicial Reform will once again be on the cards, hence the flotilla of open letters & articles in the Scotsman on this very issue, but as you can see in the quote above, it looks like the Judiciary are unaccountable to anyone - and they certainly seem to like it that way.<BR/><BR/>To return to the topic of new ideas for the legal profession's business model :<BR/><BR/>This is about the Law Society finding new ways to protect it's members business markets.<BR/><BR/>Taking Douglas Connell's idea of non-lawyers working for legal firms is a complete nonsense as a panacea to Clementi.<BR/><BR/>The bottom line is if a client knows a firm has a bad reputation or is just plain crooked, then whether they are lawyers or non lawyers, they are saddled with it - and why should people deal with a legal firm who treats their clients like dirt or gives poor or negligent service - whether it's a lawyer or just a member of their staff ? because at the end of the day, when things go wrong, we know what will happen - nothing, and the client has to take yet another financial loss while the legal firm escapes justice.<BR/><BR/>Would anyone go to a firm such as Turcan Connell to use a lawyer or a non lawyer after reading that Herald article ? Obviously the Herald believed the client, that's why the story was published in the first place. How about giving a will to Andrew Penman or his legal firm of Stormonth Darling. I wouldn't advise it ...and I couldn't really say I'd approach Turcan Connell either for legal services after reading that Herald story, or reading some of the things I am currently receiving from journalists on that firm ...<BR/><BR/>It's time to call time on the legal profession's monopoly on access to legal services & the Courts. The public have to be more careful on who they use as their legal representatives and have a proper & full regulatory disclosure on solicitors & advocates before trusting them with legal work.Diary of Injusticehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00697476580161690118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-46229740810763613032007-07-03T16:04:00.000+01:002007-07-03T16:04:00.000+01:00PeterYou seem to have missed your friend Lord McCl...Peter<BR/><BR/>You seem to have missed your friend Lord McCluskey's diatribe against the Scottish Parliament on the Land Reform Act yesterday.<BR/><BR/>Just coincidence perhaps, but Turcan Connell's clients are big players with the Land Reform Act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-1966124431661035342007-07-03T14:56:00.000+01:002007-07-03T14:56:00.000+01:00The twa Dougies at it again in the Scotsman.The au...The twa Dougies at it again in the Scotsman.<BR/>The author could have made it look a little less orchestrated than it was !<BR/>Would the twa Dougies like to talk about client complaints ?<BR/>Shock ! Horror ! looks like not !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-7896581871688892682007-07-03T05:52:00.000+01:002007-07-03T05:52:00.000+01:00Just came by to see how you are doing.Always good ...Just came by to see how you are doing.Always good posts here and support.Nice to know people respect you for it and to stand up for human rights !<BR/><BR/>Have good days !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-51518324610886535182007-07-03T05:15:00.000+01:002007-07-03T05:15:00.000+01:00That herald link is expired but anyway its obvious...That herald link is expired but anyway its obvious why Mill or Veitch chose Turcan Connell for the comment in the Scotsman story.<BR/><BR/>You scratch my back etc..<BR/><BR/>Recommend us a non crooked legal firm Mr CherbiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-85590052456486250162007-07-02T22:57:00.000+01:002007-07-02T22:57:00.000+01:00I think long live the herald (what a title !) mean...I think long live the herald (what a title !) means this :<BR/>http://www.theherald.co.uk/business/77839.html<BR/><BR/>Legal bill wipes out net assets<BR/>IAIN MORSE and SIMON BAIN January 02 2007<BR/><BR/>A leading Edinburgh law firm which charged fees of more than £16,000 to administer an estate with net assets of under £14,000 has had a complaint against it to the Law Society of Scotland rejected.<BR/><BR/>The complaint was made by widow Dr Kate Forrest, a lecturer in Russian in Edinburgh, against Turcan Connell, the multi-disciplinary firm which prides itself on its "family office".<BR/><BR/>Forrest complained that the firm had told her only that it would charge £200 an hour, had entered into unnecessary work, and had failed to give her estimates, or issue itemised bills, despite repeated requests. She claims the firm then gave an undertaking to halt the charges, in a meeting with witnesses at the firm's office, but this did not materialise.<BR/><BR/>When the Law Society examined the complaint, it ruled that the meeting could not be taken into account as the firm had no record of it, and it accepted an explanation by managing partner Douglas Connell that the complaint had been based entirely on a "misunderstanding".<BR/><BR/>The £16,000 in charges had the effect of more than wiping out any assets in the estate, which had gross assets of £69,574 but debts of £55,731.<BR/><BR/>The Law Society reported that the firm had "apologised for the oversight" in billing, and that "simple oversight … should not be defined as inadequate professional service".<BR/><BR/>In November, Jane Irvine, the Scottish Legal Services Ombudsman, issued a rare public rebuke to the Law Society over its handling of complaints, urging it to "recognise that the consumer age has dawned".<BR/><BR/>The Scottish Executive is poised to scrap self-regulation by the profession, policed by the ombudsman, and introduce a Scottish Legal Complaints Commission, which the society is fiercely resisting.<BR/><BR/>The number of complaints received by the Law Society of Scotland has shot up from 2402 during 2002 to 4849 last year. The 12-page annual report of the society's Client Relations Office records 1057 cases in which no action was taken at all last year, while in 108 cases a solicitor's conduct was found unsatisfactory.<BR/><BR/>The current procedure starts with a reference to the law firm against which the complaint is made, and internal procedures to be followed by firms are laid down by the society. Only after these are exhausted can complainants proceed to the Law Society itself. And then, perhaps surprisingly, complainants can be charged by the law firm for their work in submitting the relevant evidence to the society.<BR/><BR/>The evidence regarded as acceptable by the society may be limited only to the files presented by the law firm, though it can order the production of "missing"documents - such as the record of a meeting. If a complaint is rejected by the society, the complainants have recourse to the courts. But this means finding a law firm prepared to act against another firm - which as The Herald has reported can be difficult in Edinburgh - at a minimum cost of several thousand pounds, a considerable disincentive to taking legal action.<BR/><BR/>Kate Forrest says she is left with no choice but to go to court if she wishes to challenge an outstanding fee in excess of £8000. She says: "For me this would be expensive and risky. I am not rich and they know this very well."<BR/><BR/>The Law Society of Scotland said: "A complaint about a fee could be service or conduct as it could result from a breach of a rule if there was no letter of engagement, or IPS (inadequate professional service) if there was insufficient communication about a fee with a client.<BR/><BR/>"If a client feels a fee is too much then it can be referred to the Auditor of Court who can decide what a reasonable fee might be. Firms may also charge for providing a bill which itemises each letter, phone call, etc, especially if it is for a large volume of work.<BR/><BR/>"If someone takes a court action against a solicitor then the society is not involved in that process."<BR/><BR/>Turcan Connell said: "We care deeply about ensuring that we give every client the best possible service. Our trust and tax experts are among the most proficient in Scotland, and we always strive to protect our clients' interests and minimise their costs as far as possible.<BR/><BR/>"Dr Forrest is no longer a client. We resolutely protect the privacy of all current and former clients, and would not make any public comment on an individual's personal circumstances or relationship with us."<BR/><BR/>Penman part deux maybe ?<BR/><BR/>all these lawyers sure like to ruin dead peoples estates.I think I will spend all mine and give whats left in cash to the kids before I drop dead rather than let these bloody lawyers get their thieving hands on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20722989.post-83224578702095430422007-07-02T22:28:00.000+01:002007-07-02T22:28:00.000+01:00so it was the case of a comment too far for the ho...so it was the case of a comment too far for the hootsmoan was it ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com